I saw this on infinity for Reddit earlier, I don’t know if there’s a workaround for this or not.
They talk as if they’re protecting our privacy when it’s really a global surveillance net. The spin doctoring is insane.
Straight up 1984 Newspeak, where the Ministry of Truth is really concerned with lies, the Ministry of Peace is concerned with war, the Ministry of Love is concerned with torture, and the Ministry of Plenty is concerned with starvation.
It’s honestly Doublethink.
Whenever Google gets exposed for bad practices, people ignore it. And they believe this stuff is good or don’t care.
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this sort of gaslighting through corruption of vernacular used to amuse me, but now I feel like the withering wojak face anymore
are you referring to the new “Privacy Sandbox” or the old “Privacy Sandbox”. because if there calling this new thing a “Privacy Sandbox” after the old one lost public attention after they kept promising it for years, I am going to laugh or maybe cry.
what they originally called “Privacy Sandbox”
it was a browser feature to remove the HTTP cookie and replace it with a cohort system. your browser would receve signals about your habbits. that you were buying domino’s pizza and announce to upcoming sites that you like pizza, but ya know… in a “safe” way.
I still see, “chrome is going to replace the cookie” and “RIP the humble cookie” every once in a while.
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Bruh, so when android phones are turned off they’ll still waste energy locating people and sharing the location. And most phones don’t have a removable battery! Fucking nuts.
the new google massive surveillance apparatus is ready to be deployed
More like, already deployed, this is just the announcement.
Apple already does it with their iPhone, just saying.
I know
It’s been on for years now. It’s just more effective now and will continue to get more intrusive.
Where is that mentioned? I can’t find that in the article
It’s mentioned in the linked article about Find My Device.
This is what it says
1. Locate offline devices
Locate your compatible Android phone and tablet by ringing them or viewing their location on a map in the app — even when they’re offline. And thanks to specialized Pixel hardware, Pixel 8 and 8 Pro owners will also be able to find their devices if they’re powered off or the battery is dead.
That is why we took our time when designing the new Find My Device, which uses a crowdsourced device-locating network to help you find your lost or misplaced devices and belongings quickly – even when they’re offline.
That doesn’t say that. Although the article linked from there does, for Pixels.
And thanks to specialized Pixel hardware, Pixel 8 and 8 Pro owners will also be able to find their devices if they’re powered off or the battery is dead.
OP blocked for clickbait.
Not a single mention in the article about whether Bluetooth is turned on or off.
Samsung has an opt in option for the Smart thing network. I guess Google will go the same route.
I think mod should step in and fix the title.
You’re right that it’s not at all what the article was saying.
I see HOW op got to that assumption.
It seems like a waste of battery
Can someone explain where the code for this will be located (aosp, gsf)? How can I make sure that it will never ever be activated? What Graphene’s response? etc
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it looks like its going to be a hardware feature. if the main CPU is off, it implies the radio circuitry and its CPU (the BBM) are still powered. give google this at least, the special new Bluetooth API will be accessible to whatever OS is alive and awake to send commands (even if I don’t trust that “off” means “off”). the fact that its using encryption (that’s too complicated to be made out of Integrated Circut logic) means its likely another software feature added to the BBM co-processor (it handles all radio tasks on the phone). this all but confirms the BBM (at least going forward) will still get power, be awake and have access to the (transmit (TX) and reseave (RX) functions of the) radios even when everything else is properly off.
EDIT: or it could be an abuse of a generic BLE beacon mechanism that’s “just there for whatever the consumer would need it for”. but if they are doing proprietary encryption like they claim, that’s not really possible without updating the BBM’s software to add another feature.
How effective do you believe that a Faraday cage would be against this mechanism?
Probably about as effective as keeping an air tag or tile tracker in one. That is, if the problem behavior isn’t correctly disabled by or even encouraged the OS.
damn that really sucks… sounds like it may just be an OS/firmware change then that activates the radio controller?
either way this is is exactly why we need a new community built piece of hardware. we cannot keep being slaves to Google’s whims just to use Graphene. i know there are other OS’s but either way it’s still Big Tech dependence.
RIP battery.
Depends how it’s implemented, my bluetooth “smartwatch” runs for around 2 years on a single CR2032.
There is also Bluetooth low frequency thingy with less data transfer. I wonder what Google will do and use while being turned off.
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The question is: when a phone is turned off is it really turned off? The amount of software that needs to be running to manage Bluetooth leds to to believe they simply kill all applications (including the UI) and most services and leave the kernel and a few other things running. I might be wrong, but I would like to see some clarification on that.
I guess the recommendation of turning off the Bluetooth to save battery, or the sarcastic comment that usually says “bro, just turn off the phone if you care too much about the battery” are gonna be obsolete now aren’t they?
Postmarket OS Here I come! Now just the problem of banking apps …
Bank on Firefox web browser on phone or computer.
This is Google’s deployment of tracking apparatus, courtesy CIA. Heil America and thank the greatest country on earth! NSA programs, Patriot Act, CLOUD Act and uncountable activities were not enough. Banning Tiktok is not enough.
Google, its devices or software or anyone shilling it cannot be trusted. This is in the best interests of your privacy AND security.
I will also take a moment to remind of Google’s Project Maven, where they used smartphone metadata collected using Google Play Services and Google trackers on internet to drone bomb Muslims in Yemen. Currently, they are facilitating a genocide of Palestinians, as have they done to Middle East for decades. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-project-maven-drone-warfare-artificial-intelligence
The only workarounds I see is preferring devices like the ones Huawei has, with no GMS thanks to US sanctions, or buying non-Google devices you can root and flash something as clean as LineageOS (not Graphene Google OS) or AOSP based custom builds. Boutique devices like ones with /e/OS, Murena phones also seem like good foundations to start with. On existing phones, disabling Bluetooth ability for any Google packages using ADB/Shizuku in addition to blocking any Google/Alphabet related domains using HOSTS rules will be a solid strategy.
They are deeply involved with CIA/deepstate/MIC and are censoring and propagandizing their own population on behalf of the Capitalist ruling elite. Scum corporation…
