This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:
The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.
Lemmy.world sucks donkey balls and this isn’t the only example.
Reddit 2.0. Always has been.
Considering how powerful is the copyright mafia (Remember that the pirate bay founder got jail-time) I totally understand why the people running the instance are doing so. I get why user are pissed off, but they’re free to host their own instance and deal by themselves with the legal liability
I can see why they would do this if their servers are in the US, Japan, Germany or another country with insane copyright laws. If not this move is stupid, almost as stupid as hosting your server in one of those countries.
Neither the server or community host copyrighted content. You can’t even directly link to sources for it either per the community and server rules. All the community does is discuss piracy which isn’t illegal
True, but let’s not forget that Lemmy instances are hosted by ordinary people without the finances to employ high price legal teams. If they receive a threatening letter from (for example) Sony or Disney they still have to either acquiesce or find a lot of money very quickly to simply argue their case.
In the US you can apparently sue software companies that make software sometimes used for piracy so it apparently doesn’t even need to be illegal there for people to shut it down if they are rich enough.
Lemmy.world continues to prove that their biggest utility is in attracting the bulk of the Reddit Crowd so that other, more specialized communities aren’t overwhelmed, and the older worlders can then join a better community for the long-run.
…attracting the bulk of the Reddit Crowd…
But r/piracy is still an thing. Crazy.
And it’s a shell of it’s former self. A lot of the serious members switched to c/piracy, db0 being the prime example
Another lemmy.world L, don’t know why anyone bothers with that shitshow.
Lemmy.world is designed for people who want another Reddit. Interacting with their users & communities tells you all you need to know. I’d be a fan of defederating, tbh
What are the design features of lemmy.world that make it stand out here?
The instance beef is annoying to me, but i’m not here for the politics talk, maybe that’s why i don’t get it. I see pleasant and unpleasant users coming from all kinds of instances.
Piracy@lemmy.dbzer0
Again?
Thanks for pointing it out. Time to stop using my Lemmy world account. Bye-bye
Edit: or more likely just make another account and main it.
Interesting. This and other actions seem to hint that they got themselves into the crosshairs of legal law enforcement. You reap what you sow. I suggest that people don’t ignore potential issues with an instance, because it does spill over in unexpected ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFdbbcj4Ao
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Not a suprise .world is like the most liberal instance I come across,
They’re literally having a circlejerk right now about how they should defed .ml bc they’re convinced it’s a Hexbear-orchestrated honeypot lmfao
My favorate is I think it was them, right after they defedded lemmygrad they premptivly defedded hexbear… when Hexbear never had plans to federate with them
also I need to see this … This will be hillarious, but I mean I would like to see .world try, if any instance could survive on their own it would be them, but I am not sure they can.
So Reddit can but Lemmy can’t? Sad.
Well, a quick reminder that Lemmy.world is not all of Lemmy. Nintendo, the RIAA, the MPA(A), and other lawsuit-blasting organizations would have to tackle every single Lemmy instance.
Sure, one threatening letter is all that’s needed to scare most server operators, but since there are a large variety of hosts located in jurisdictions around the world, it’s not as simple as taking out the big player like it might be for Reddit.
The unfortunate truth here is that Reddit is a company and Lemmy instances are usually run by a few individuals.
We just don’t have the politic barrier or resources to stand against the pressure
Lemmy can. Go make your instance now and it will be fully in your control (until the cease and desist letters arrive)
Untill a court summons come I think they all go into the shredder (Joke if anyone is reading I am not a lawer)
And when it goes to the court you move under the nearest bridge.
Seems quite reasonable to remove illegal communities given how Lemmy works with the caching of all content locally. There is just a significant legal risk for the instance operators involved here.
Merely discussing piracy is not a crime. And that’s all that happens in that community
It depends on the kind of discussion. Incentivizing other people to break the law is illegal in most places
Then arrest the execs making those incentives; not the consumers taking and distributing notes on them.
Piracy is not breaking the law. Fuck capitalism!
Look, I agree with the feeling behind what you are saying, However its important to remember Morality is not the same as Legality, and while they can sometimes overlap they are difrent cosepts, Piricy is moral, but not legal. If you ask me, it is A ok to do somthing that is moral but illegal
Whether or not it’s moral or ethical is separate from it being legal, and it’s definitely illegal (in the US).
Tfu
Wannabe capitalist-tier commenting; tfu. Your breath reeks of Oxford polish and your brain is poisoned by vain, childish notions of ‘owning’ ideas like there’s just an infinite supply of those under the sun.
