As a developer I object to your assumption that I need a mouse to do my job. The only thing I need a mouse for is outlook and I’d definitely be more productive without it.
This is my imposter syndrome.
I’m a senior engineer now and I’m a big mouse user. It’s more intuitive for me. My productivity is certainly not bottlenecking on how fast my hands move on the keyboard. .
My productivity is bottlenecked by the number of meetings I have to attend, random slack messages that need to be responded to, and distractions IRL.
I’m not going to shame anyone about using a mouse unless you also always right click to copy/paste.
Only because I have figured out how to copy from vim to other apps without the mouse yet.
If you ever find out a way, please DM me
I’ll probably get back to you in a few years, still mastering the motions and actions.
Haha, same lol
Hey, if you’re still wondering, I found this on SE: https://vi.stackexchange.com/questions/84/how-can-i-copy-text-to-the-system-clipboard-from-vim
Thank you for this, now I know I have 26+ registers to store stuff in as well as the system clipboard! Honestly been so busy I haven’t touched my computer in over a week.
I choose to eschew my mouse when I can because it’s easier. I don’t have to move my arms around as much, and I can work quicker. It’s more comfortable. All of this is a preference thing, why should anyone do something my way if it’s not how they prefer?
Great perspective. If we are codeving or screen sharing, I’m fast and fluid. I just move differently.
Skiing vs snowboarding
One of the best programmers I worked with was a hunt and peck typist.
His code was meticulous. I frequently learned things reading his PRs.
Pair programming with him otoh…
Nah fuck the haters, the keyboard-only workflow may be technically more productive, just like a Dvorak is better than a QWERTY, but what matters is your output and your quality.
People will spend hours learning things that save them seconds.
It’s for navigating web documentation when arrow keys are too fine but page up/down keys are too coarse.
I guess you could hit tab 9000 times to get to the right hyperlink. I’ve done that when setting up Hyperland on an Nvidia GPU and my cursor was there but invisible.
If anyone genuinely feels this way and wants to get started in coding, I highly recommend doing one of the mooc.fi courses. Codecademy is fine as a taster/refresh but don’t waste money on the premium when something like mooc is available for free.
“If you wish to be a writer, write.”
Epictetus delivered this burn over 1900 years ago.
Is that actually a burn? It depends on the context.
It’s the same thing whenever I hear somebody say “I wish I could draw like that.” You probably can, but it would take hundreds of hours of practice. Of course, people wish that there was some shortcut, so that they could get the skill without all the work.
Yeah but I feel like there’s a million books been written since that time which point out how vapid this quote is. To write one must know what you want to say and how to convey it, do you really think it’s better to just dive into a task unprepared and muddle through rather than learn first the structure and ideals behind such work?
At the end of the day, both are required. You need to study to be effective at what you’re doing, but at the end of the day the only way words get on paper is writing. You’ll also get more out of learning these structures and ideals trying to apply them after you have a bit of time just floundering, getting a feel for the actual task.
I would say both. You need to learn by trying things out, making your own mistakes and finding a style. Then you get input from the outside world on why some peculiar structure make sense or just giving helpful tips. Then you try out more, apply those tips and see what works for you. But you can read as much helpful input as you want, it won’t be any good without you trying to apply it and practice.
Yeah, came here to compare. Both are wrong. If you wish to be a writer, write. If you wish to be a good writer, learn something. Same with programming, except programming requires something to function so it’s even worse in that regard.
Fuck me right in my ADHD. But it is true
I’m clicking my mouse as fast as I can but nothing is happening.
How many clicks until my awesome app is finished?
There lies your problem, ditch mouse use vim(neovim if want to impress the ladies).
vims that thing were you type emoticons everywhere right? :q :w :e
It’s 2024 we only use emojis now 😎
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Careful with that, occasionally you can develop some pretty nasty emacs hand
Emacs for coding. Fight me.
I agree Emacs is agreat OS, but sadly it doesn’t have any good text editor.
It does(evil)
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The mistake is clicking it, and not speaking to it. Try “hello computer”.
Have you tried clicking on rhythm? Have you tried different rhythms?
Pick a language. Keep it simple. Make something.
Bonus points if it’s something very simple that you’ll use.
Tic tac toe. Fizzbuzz. A score pad for a game. Something that can theoretically be done in an hour (if you were an expert).
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What if I wanna learn to code because I want to make more money than what I’m making now but lack creativity to make something like a game or an app that’s supposed to be good practice?
Learn finance and bookkeeping; work for a bank. Software development is not lucrative; the high-paying jobs are fundamentally tough and cause burnout. Median employment at big software companies is maybe 2-3yrs and it will ruin your ability to relate to other humans.
Or work for a software development related to finance and bookkeeping so you get the downsides of both.
Be aware that learning to code is not a safe bet for making money in this market. Of course it’s better to have coding skills on your resume than nothing. Coding also complements other white collar skills well (eg. program Macros in Excel or use Jupyter for bespoke data analysis). But code alone is unlikely to get you cash, in my opinion.
Sometimes motivation can make your better in forced way
Your case same like mine actually. in the end i forced to learn programming because it’s digital era & everything will be digital at some point, at first i admit i suck at everything but as time goes on i can made something better and betterI still remembered the first time i forced my way i learned about programming world especially web dev 14 years ago. I learned WordPress, why i learned it ? because it can make website really really fast, it’s high demand in my country (even today), you can make easy peasy money with it since my client doesn’t care about what tools you used as long as the website is launch and meet their requirements, & it suits for client that have very tight budget
Well nowadays i still learning how to make website & apps in proper way (like true programmer does). I admit it’s hard since i always use the easy way to cheat it, but i will made it through
Maybe next time I’ll learn how to make games since nowadays games popularity has rised so much compared way back then
You don’t need to make something unique, if your goal is to learn.
The best thing you can do is to build something that solves a problem for you, or to build something that already exists that you know well.
As for money, given that companies seem to love layoffs lately, I would say that higher salaries only matter if you are employed. It’s an employers market right now, and a lot of people are really struggling to find work again, even from large companies like Amazon and Google.
Classic result of a business man in charge of a software company.
LPT: work for a company where the decision maker comes from an engineering background, not a business background.
You’re welcome.
I mean there must be a reason why someone would want to be a dev. I would go from there
Pfft imagine using a mouse to code.
I’m sure it works fine when held like a pen…
