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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 年前

Sweden Closes Investigation of Pipeline Blasts, but Stays Silent on Cause

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Sweden Closes Investigation of Pipeline Blasts, but Stays Silent on Cause

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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 年前
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The natural-gas connection was sabotaged in September 2022, seven months after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, prompting rampant speculation about who was to blame.
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  • nekandro@lemmy.mlOP
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    If Sweden had found Russia at fault, you’d think they would be shouting it from the rooftops.

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      Why do you think they would do that?

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        Because rooftop shouting is fun!!

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    The question of jurisdiction was more complicated than where the crime had been committed.

    So… The US did it.

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        The war hawks answer would be so that we can economically separate russia-germany so that germany is more willing to go against russia. If Germany is dependent on gas from Russia they are less willing to risk their relationship.

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        At the time, Germany was on the fence about sanctions because they were getting gas via the Nordstream from Russia and didn’t want to endanger that. Sudden, completely unexpected lack of gas from Russia = no impediment to backing sanctions. And that’s how it turned out.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        German industry was seen as competition by the US, and US didn’t like Germany becoming economically tied with Russia.

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      Ukraine actually did it, but there’s no chance they’d do that without the US giving the go-ahead.

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        From what I have heard it is actually really hard to do, and only a few countries have the capabilities and equipment.

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    Why is is so hard to believe that the US blew up the pipeline? They have the capability, the motivation, and they will face absolutely no consequences from doing it. Like how is this even a question?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      Believing that means having to accept that the whole western narrative in utter bullshit. NATO isn’t an alliance of nations that protect each other, it’s a protection racket that US runs to subjugate Europe.

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    🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

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    Man I almost want to go back to reddit and smack every stupid user who exclaimed it was Russia the moment it happened with insane levels of an alibi.

    “uM AKshUlLy, THeY blEw iT uP So tHeRd be OnLy oNe PiPElInE fOr eURoPe”

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    Like the obedient little vassals that they are.

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    It was a Ukrainian mission directed by the USA. Before you downvote do even a basic amount of research. There was a great finding recently that tracked down the who and the how. A chartered yacht with 6 Ukrainian special forces planted the charges and it’s not an unknown anymore. They used fake passports, left out of Rostock Germany, and Germany traced it. They found the people via camera and entry. They found the yacht itself still with explosive residue on it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-russia/

    https://apnews.com/article/nord-stream-pipeline-attack-russia-investigation-4b7cb8117f420985b0d887117eebd786

    • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlBanned
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      No, it was USA. Seymour Hersh covered it. And a comment here explains it https://hexbear.net/comment/4575206

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      Ah yes, the ever so trustworthy US State Department and intelligence services scribe the Washington Post. They’re definitely not throwing a smokescreen.

      “We’ve investigated ourselves of any wrongdoing, and while we can’t credibly deny that we suggested blowing up the pipeline and really wanted the pipeline blown up, we definitely didn’t touch the actual explosives!”

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    😑

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    They are silent because it was Ukraine acting on behalf of the US

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          In terms of getting us hooked off that Russian gas it was a good thing, whoever did this.

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              ok 👍

              • ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml
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                To create chaos between their enemies, to create the feeling under civilians that their resources may dry up and let’s not forget, because they’re fucking evil.

                This you?

                In terms of getting us hooked off that Russian gas it was a good thing, whoever did this.

                This you though?

                ok 👍

                Ok 👍

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            You can just switch suppliers? Like how is it in your interest to have someone bomb your less competitive supplier? Do libs not have a problem with monopolies even in the abstract??

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        Least braindead Anglo nationalist

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