‘We recognise China, and that Taiwan is part of China’ – Leo Varadkar clarifies Ireland’s position ahead of Davos meetings
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  • erranto@lemmy.world
    403·
    2 years ago

    He is not technically wrong, as the Taiwanese themselves haven’t declared independence from China.

    • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlBanned
      42·
      2 years ago

      Taiwan never claimed independence and is a defacto state, NOT a dejure sovereign state, and over 170 countries recognise it as part of One China. There is only one China. Keep crying. Your pronouns do not give you immunity from being called out on bullshit.

      • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.orgEnglish
        11·
        2 years ago

        No :)

        Let’s see. How can I break this down.

        I think it’s quite fair to assume that when people use the term China in isolation, they are referring to the authoritarian dictatorship state controlled by the CCP, The Peoples Republic of China.

        ROC a governmental body, still holds onto the idea that it is the sole rightful “owner” of all the territories of pre-1949 China. Good for them, a little far from reality but I can’t blame them for having dreams.

        A significant portion of the people of Taiwan do not under any circumstances want to be part of anything under rule of the CCP, which in reality means that they do not want to be part of the Peoples Republic of China. The ROC, on the other hand, still wants to hold into the idea of their claim over the whole region, so it’s interests are in conflict with the people’s in that regard.

        Thus! Taiwan is an independent state from the PRC because the chances of the PRC being governed by anyone but the CCP is slim to none.

        I note you went straight to swearing at me, quoting my own “fuck right off” which was directed at a government and not any individual. I’m sure you understand why this doesn’t make me any more likely to support your stance, but do try to be kinder.

      • Gabu@lemmy.ml
        23·
        2 years ago

        Did you even think before writing that? What am I saying, of course you didn’t.

        the ROC doesn’t consider th Taiwan to be an independent state

        Because they lose any possible claim to their continuity as the rightful government of China by doing so. Also, the CCP would be quite pissy about that.

  • Gabu@lemmy.ml
    35·
    2 years ago

    He must’ve mispoken - China is a part of Taiwan, as everyone knows.

    • gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
      213·
      2 years ago

      Err… the Philippines, the former US colony? Where currently new US military bases are being built? Which China has never ruled, attempted to rule, or said they want to rule?

      You’re worried that China is going to claim the Philippines???

      • Truck_kun@beehaw.orgEnglish
        34·
        2 years ago

        They wouldn’t claim the Philippines without a war.

        But the Chinese government is trying to claim territorial waters, and their aggression toward all their neighbors is exactly why the Philippines have decided to work with the US and open new bases.

        They may not claim it, but they are definitely the aggressor in the territory, and most of their neighbors do not view the Chinese government as ‘the good guys’; that’s not to say they view the US as ‘the good guys’ either, simply as the one that isn’t actively aggressive and could assist in their defense.

  • jaeme@lemmy.ml
    1453·
    2 years ago

    Taiwan seperatists keep losing!

    There will be one China and Taiwan will be a respected part of that China.