Yeah let’s just set back and let be bunch of theocratic authoritarians hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and cleansing the middle east of Christians and Jews.
I have a better idea. How about we isolate them into little spots of desert nobody cares about and if they poke their heads out and threaten their neighbors, we bomb the shit out of them until they figure out that they are the baddies, while the rest of the world moves forward without them?
Maybe you’re right. Maybe we should just say a bunch of inch deep non sequitors and nonsense like “fyi the Palestine problem was worsened by the west.” That will totally not result in another world war and tens of millions of dead, tens of millions of refugees, and the worst humanitarian crisis in the history of the planet. And let’s do it all in the name of humanitarianism!
They will, just as soon as those ships stop violating their blockade. You will note that many ships pass through Yemeni waters without issue because they are abiding by the rules, as dictates by maritime law and international law. Why are you defending the criminals?
The ships they’re firing upon are passing through in accordance with maritime and international law. Their justification is that the ships are Israeli affiliated, but those ships are still sailing in recognized international waters.
You can’t just “announce” a blockade and make it your territorial waters. You can absolutely create a blockade if you choose to, but it is a recognized act of war. There’s a separate conversation to whether that is a just action or not, tied in with the war in Israel/Palestine. But that doesn’t change the fact that a blockade in itself is an act of war.
The Bab-el-Mandeb Strait - which the UN has stated is a strait to which transit passage applies. Yemen is a signatory country to the UN convention on the law of the sea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab-el-Mandeb
In straits referred to in article 37, all ships and aircraft enjoy the right of transit passage, which shall not be impeded; except that, if the strait is formed by an island of a State bordering the strait and its mainland, transit passage shall not apply if there exists seaward of the island a route through the high seas or through an exclusive economic zone of similar convenience with respect to navigational and hydrographical characteristics.
Transit passage means the exercise in accordance with this Part of the freedom of navigation and overflight solely for the purpose of continuous and expeditious transit of the strait between one part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone and another part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone. However, the requirement of continuous and expeditious transit does not preclude passage through the strait for the purpose of entering, leaving or returning from a State bordering the strait, subject to the conditions of entry to that State.
Any activity which is not an exercise of the right of transit passage through a strait remains subject to the other applicable provisions of this Convention.~~*
During an armed conflict, to the extent that the peacetime regime of the law of the sea and the law of naval warfare are inconsistent, the law of naval warfare is lex specialis and prevails over the peacetime rules reflected in UNCLOS (Newport Manual, §§ 1.1, 4.1).
Current understanding of blockade, including its requirements, entitlements and consequences, is largely based on the London Declaration,67 and it is reflected in the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea from 1994.
Highly recommended reading that journal article. It speaks of Israeli blockades, the concept of implied belligerency, and non-state actors.
Suffice to say, Article 38 appears to be in question while there is ongoing conflict, and it appears to have been abrogated by Israel in precisely the same ways that are happening now in the strait.
The recent US and UK actions can be taken as examples on how to cure the symptom while making the disease worse
Here’s an idea:
The Houthi’s can just not launch missiles at ships
And the US could just stop funding Netanyahu’s war in Gaza.
Good idea! Here’s another: UK and US stop interferring in middle east (FYI the palestine problem was worsened by magnitudes by the UK mandate)
Yeah let’s just set back and let be bunch of theocratic authoritarians hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and cleansing the middle east of Christians and Jews.
I have a better idea. How about we isolate them into little spots of desert nobody cares about and if they poke their heads out and threaten their neighbors, we bomb the shit out of them until they figure out that they are the baddies, while the rest of the world moves forward without them?
Maybe you’re right. Maybe we should just say a bunch of inch deep non sequitors and nonsense like “fyi the Palestine problem was worsened by the west.” That will totally not result in another world war and tens of millions of dead, tens of millions of refugees, and the worst humanitarian crisis in the history of the planet. And let’s do it all in the name of humanitarianism!
How about no.
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I agree, let them just kill each other with reckless abandon
They will, just as soon as those ships stop violating their blockade. You will note that many ships pass through Yemeni waters without issue because they are abiding by the rules, as dictates by maritime law and international law. Why are you defending the criminals?
The ships they’re firing upon are passing through in accordance with maritime and international law. Their justification is that the ships are Israeli affiliated, but those ships are still sailing in recognized international waters.
Oh shit! International law?? Man, I bet everyone totally respects stuff like that-- especially the very very moral nations like the US and Israel.
No, they aren’t, because a blockade has been announced and the ships are violating the blockade.
You can’t just “announce” a blockade and make it your territorial waters. You can absolutely create a blockade if you choose to, but it is a recognized act of war. There’s a separate conversation to whether that is a just action or not, tied in with the war in Israel/Palestine. But that doesn’t change the fact that a blockade in itself is an act of war.
Sorry, are you saying it’s not in the territorial waters of Yemen?
The Bab-el-Mandeb Strait - which the UN has stated is a strait to which transit passage applies. Yemen is a signatory country to the UN convention on the law of the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab-el-Mandeb
Transit Passage https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part3.htm#:~:text=and hydrographical characteristics.-,2.,or an exclusive economic zone.
Specifically, article 38 states:
~~Right of transit passage
In straits referred to in article 37, all ships and aircraft enjoy the right of transit passage, which shall not be impeded; except that, if the strait is formed by an island of a State bordering the strait and its mainland, transit passage shall not apply if there exists seaward of the island a route through the high seas or through an exclusive economic zone of similar convenience with respect to navigational and hydrographical characteristics.
Transit passage means the exercise in accordance with this Part of the freedom of navigation and overflight solely for the purpose of continuous and expeditious transit of the strait between one part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone and another part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone. However, the requirement of continuous and expeditious transit does not preclude passage through the strait for the purpose of entering, leaving or returning from a State bordering the strait, subject to the conditions of entry to that State.
Any activity which is not an exercise of the right of transit passage through a strait remains subject to the other applicable provisions of this Convention.~~*
From West Point: https://lieber.westpoint.edu/russia-ukraine-war-naval-blockades-visit-search-targeting-war-sustaining-objects/
From https://www.jstor.org/stable/48710561?seq=3 a 2018 international relations journal on blockades
Highly recommended reading that journal article. It speaks of Israeli blockades, the concept of implied belligerency, and non-state actors.
Suffice to say, Article 38 appears to be in question while there is ongoing conflict, and it appears to have been abrogated by Israel in precisely the same ways that are happening now in the strait.
Ansar Allah are acting in accordance to international laws and treaties and are trying to stop the genocide in Gaza.
Hey, the navy needs to keep their button pushing skills sharp /s
Lol🤔
Here’s an idea, countries involved in genocide can just not sail ships through Yemeni waters.