I don’t really use facebook anymore so couldn’t care less; but so happened to log in today to change my password and saw this on my front page.
Seems like a feature to me.
Oh yeah aunt Greta, I’m still friends with you, but it’s so weird how I can’t see your anti vax “facts”
I took a peek at my feed for the first time in years. It’s all junk lol, no one I care about is posting anything
The only thing worth seeing is my local Buy Nothing group, but there are other services popping up which do something similar.
Yeah all my actual friends are messaging me elsewhere, facebook is more like a picture dump for old people. I only use it occasionally for joining various expat groups since I move countries frequently for my job, and they are rather resourceful.
It sure might be, but the one friend who got blocked is just casually posting stuff from his personal life, nothing spammy going on there. Either facebook is screwing with me, or they are playing out some friend’s posts in the ad-network stream so you are actually losing some genuine content. That would be evil (and totally something Meta would do), but I really couldn’t care less.
I do think that sounds more like they’re hiding it and blaming adblock than pretending something was missed. Wouldn’t be surprised if it starts small and ramps up over time, but that’s just speculation.
Adblockers block ads, not posts. Fucking Facebook is trying to gaslight you into killing your adblocker by blocking your friends posts themselves and then blaming you for it.
Youtube has a lot of unique content, some of it valuable. Facebook has very little of value. Like, just go home Facebook, no one cares, you’re drunk.
Even if they were blocking posts, it’ll be because FB purposely wrapped them to look like an Ad
Or a friend shared paid content?
Facebook has groups, and unfortunately, that’s a pretty important feature. The car groups I belong to are hardcore track drivers and DIYers that share knowledge (problems and resolutions, alignment specs, tire and wheel experiences, custom parts, parts swaps, etc) and independent manufacturers who make stuff that isn’t otherwise easily available.
Until there is a solid replacement for that, I can’t get rid of Facebook proper.
I think people are underestimating how important the YouTube thing is.
If they succeed, the entire ad funded internet are going to clone what they do.
It will effect everyone everywhere, whether you run an adblocker or not.
It will benefit the large corporations and choke out the smaller people. It will consolidate control and wealth.
Exactly and I think what we are seeing here is that the other companies are now helping build a very frustrating user experience to break down the everyday user. We will likely see Twitter and others joining in the coming weeks
And given Google has the monopoly on ads, they have nothing to lose.
They have already succeeded.
Other than YouTube, I’m basically off all of these centralized social media platforms and it feels great.
I do need to occasionally use Facebook for market place and messenger for contacting business.
Basically every business operates over messenger where I live.
Yes same for me, whatsapp is pretty much the only “genuine” communication channel. I only keep a presence on facebook since I have to move countries frequently for work, and the “expats in $city” groups are quite helpful to find people, and then move the discussions off-platform :-)
It’s YouTube (piped when I can but the servers seem to be down) and old.reddit.com for me.
I don’t like that it doesn’t save video progress mid video. It also is not very reliable for me, so I use an iOS extension called vinegar and use YouTube through a browser.
Piped.video does though, if that’s what you want. Yes, reliability is a problem; I’m just waiting for when I’ll host my own piped instance
I will check it out again. I thought it only marked videos as played but did not save the position in the video when you stopped watching.
Someone on here linked to odysee.com which appears to be a better version of YouTube so far, even Louis Rossman is there talking about YT’s new adblock situation as one example: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/youtube’s-adblock-war-is-backfiring-in:c
Thanks! I always forget about that platform. I did see he made a video about that. I’ll watch it on odyssey now
LOL, if you block ads they’ll hide a message from one of your friends that you never would have seen anyway because it would’ve been buried in ads.
I think this is good though. I think this is just what a lot of people need to get them off FB. I mean… have you tried surfing the www without an ad blocker? I’d rather not use the www.
I find it quite dubious their claim of it blocking posts from friends, vs. ads. Friends don’t post ads, so if it’s blocking posts, they are inserting ads colored up as “friend posts”.
They ain’t my friends if they be posting ads.
So they’re essentially admitting that their advertisements are indistinguishable from your friend’s posts which are the actual reason you visit the site in the first place. It doesn’t matter anyway anymore. Facebook has buried friends list content among absolute bullshit you have zero desire to see. I visited a while ago and 99% of what I was shown was ridiculous groups I tried to block. But there are millions of them. You can block a thousand groups and there’s 999 thousand more that are just like it, waiting to take their place. Facebook is supposed to have this super algorithm that determines what users want to see. If that’s the case, why are they incapable of detecting that I am actively opposed to certain types of content? Maybe they think they’re going to outrage me enough to engage on this bullshit? Nah, I’ll just leave. Bye, fuck-faces.
The algo doesn’t determine what YOU want to see, it’s to determine what the ADVERTISERS want to market themselves to.
Stop using Facebook.
Facebook can get fucked. They offer even less to me than YouTube.
Of course they are, that’s how they make their money. Can’t understand the broken logic of anybody that’s suprised by this, what is surprising is that anybody that cares about privacy would ever use Facebook.
I rather doubt ad blockers are that big of an impact for them as the age group for facebook is quite old and very app based in my experience.
They’ve easily wasted more money on the metaverse than adblocking has cost them. Plus since they sell your info, they’ll still make money on you even if you block the ads.
Can anyone please get my country off Facebook and Messenger? Please?
What “your country” does is irrelevant. Using Facebook or not is your choice, not others.
I don’t have a choice. If everybody uses Facebook Messenger for communication, then I need to use Facebook Messenger. Not using Facebook Messenger at all in that case is cutting everybody out of my life. I’m not willing to do that.
Use Beeper then, at least you won’t have to use Facebook’s app
True, but good luck getting an acct.
Its just a matter of getting a invite code from someone whose already in the door. There is basically lots of people who generate it for others. Id do it if I was at home.
I have one and would be happy to share my referral code to anyone who sends me a DM
No, it’s not. Is your claim that if you sent an SMS they wouldnt receive it? If you called them would their phone not ring? It’s 100% a choice, your making. Make it if you like, just don’t kid yourself.
5-10 years ago when FB was still popular EVERYBODY I knew used it, including messenger. I never did, I haven’t lost contact with a single person who was actually my friend. Again, there’s a difference between actual friends and FB friends.
Your situation is different from mine. Facebook might not be popular in your country anymore but it’s the largest social media platform in mine. Young people don’t use SMS for communication in my country anymore. The majority has switched to Facebook Messenger now. SMS is only for carrier messages and verification codes. Even if I did get like one or two friends to use SMS again (unlimited SMS not included in phone plans by the way), how do you propose I solve the problem of Messenger group chats? I need them for family, for friends, for college and for work. How do you propose I solve that?
It’s fucking absurd that it’s 2023 and SMS still costs money on mobile plans that also have internet.
SMS messages take less than 150 bytes of data. It’s hard to even explain how little data that is compared to everything your phone does that is IP based. With ATM and Ethernet, just the TCP and IP frame overhead is over 50 bytes, and TCP requires 3 packets just to start a socket, so you can literally send a max length SMS message in about the same data as the TCP overhead of an idle connection. Yet they charge people per message. If you were charged for every TCP socket setup your phone made you’d go bankrupt*.
*not really, that was figurative hyperbole.
Youve missed the point, it WAS that popular here, that changed nothing. If I sent an SMS , they got it. If YOU send an SMS, they’ll get it.
You can do whatever you like, but you’re intermixing want vs need. So you can either CHOSE to send an SMS or you don’t. But you don’t NEED to. May be more convenient, but you need to decide whether to make like arguably easier, or maintain slightly more privacy. That’s your choice, but don’t kid yourself that it’s not a choice you have.
I used to be nice to use privacy invading convenient things, it was great to tell my phone to remind me of things when I left work etc. but my privacy is more important than that convenience. Using a known abusive data minor as main method of communication is about as bad as it gets for me, at that point, all my privacy efforts are a waste.
I don’t spit in the face of my own privacy to appease others, if you chose to, that’s fine. Just own it.
I don’t think any other site can do what YouTube is doing, because YouTube is almost impossible to replace and find an alternative to. If Facebook pulls this I’m out for good. The only reason I’m on there still is the 3 people who refuse to use anything else that I still care about.
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It’s family so I guess I’m shit out of luck here. Everyone else I managed to get to communicate through signal or at least email. But those 3 are a bit special.
So you use a data miner because other people do, but if they block ads you won’t? Which one is it?
I don’t even get the question. Yeah I use Facebook with a fake name and no data on the account accept a spam mail address to write occasional messages with 3 people. If I couldn’t use ad block on facebook it’d be too annoying to use for me even for that.
I did that and facebook banned me for being a bot
If you create a new account probably. My account is many years old but with little activity. Maybe it doesn’t get bit scanned anymore.
That’s fine, but that’s not really “using it” either. People use it normally and think things like fake emails and bad names changes anything, it doesn’t. Meta is still getting all their data points, those accts are just as valuable, and most people at some point will fuck up and the connection will be made.
this is such an insidious way to stop people from using ad blockers. It’s not like facebook isn’t deliberately making sure these false positives happen.
If they can tell you when and how many of your friend’s posts were blocked, they could just as easily not block them.
“they could just as easily present them in a way that wouldn’t be blocked” would be a more accurate way of phrasing it. Facebook is not the one blocking this content - rather, it’s detecting that it has been blocked (clientside)
youre right, but the lines get blurry. i wouldnt be a bit surprised if facebook literally is blocking the content. just wild speculation ofc.
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It’s like all these tech companies wait to deploy this stuff at the same time.
As soon as one has the audacity to deploy anti-consumer bullshit and the others see there’s no measurable fallback, they all rush to roll out the same shit.
Exactly. They sat back and waited. They all want to do it. Ads are cancer to just about everything. Cable, internet, streaming, etc. it ruins the user experience.
