• @yanyuan@lemmy.world
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    501 year ago

    In Europe (and probably many other parts of the world):

    • A happy relationship is more important than social etiquette and honour.
    • It’s okay for an unmarried couple to share an apartment/house.
    • Being a single mother is nothing to be ashamed of.
    • Fuck the church.
  • Blue and Orange
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    461 year ago

    1923 - “we need to scrap the harshest measures of the treaty of versailles and help Germany’s economic recovery, otherwise these national socialists are going to exploit the misery to gain power” lol

    • @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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      181 year ago

      That wouldn’t get you cancelled, that was basically the position of the US government which led to the Dawes Plan in 1924 to do exactly that. The impact of Versailles in the rise of the Nazis wasn’t so much economic, by 1924 Germany was probably saving more by not being allowed to have a large army than it was losing to reparations, and the period of 1924-1929 was even called the Golden Twenties. The humiliation factor of how it was negotiated and imposed however played right into Hitler’s hands.

  • @Notorious@lemmy.world
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    291 year ago

    Idk about 1923, but in 1823 you would definitely get “canceled” for saying that washing your hands is good for your health.

    • @LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml
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      151 year ago

      “Hah! Germ theory? Preposterous! I should think these ‘germs’ no more real than the tooth fairy. Why should the patient sit in their agony while you rinse your hands when there is surgery to perform? Why, it’s downright disrespectful, wasting the patient’s time like that, as if you care more for the tidiness of your person than their well-being. I should hope that no poor, beleaguered soul has the misfortune to find themselves under your care”

    • WashedOver
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      11 year ago

      It’s a shame how they railroaded him into the poor house for such ideas. Sometimes being first is the worst to be.

    • The Dark Lord ☑️
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      231 year ago

      1923 is a little premature. He wasn’t appointed Chancellor of Germany until 10 years after that. Hitler was actually in prison in 1923 for attempting a coup, so it wouldn’t have been too upsetting to say you were against him.

      • @AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world
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        51 year ago

        It wouldn’t have been Hitler that would have gotten you canceled. It would have been suggesting we go get involved in another war so soon after WWI with no real evidence that it would be important.

      • WashedOver
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        However later on there was more support even among Americans with the US Nazi party that existed and tried to run in elections.

        To be fair many around the world saw Fascism as a new exciting way to run a country until war broke out. Then those Nazis and fascists were only good when they were dead.

        I wonder if those cosplaying as Nazis today understand they aren’t the heroes they think they are especially when it comes to US WW2 veterans, (many would consider the real heroes) would want these newer Nazis dead too.

    • Call me Lenny/Leni
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      161 year ago

      Hitler was always criticized. There’s a NYT report calling him out as an antisemite in the 1920’s and Casablanca looked down on Nazis almost a decade before the first signs were showing of the holocaust to come.

      • Tar_Alcaran
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        151 year ago

        There’s a NYT report calling him out as an antisemite in the 1920’s

        Sure, but this was at a time where you could get antisemitic magazines delivered to your door, and some people had dozens. There really wasn’t as much stigma on it as now (And I’d argue it could use a little more stigma still). There were lots of places around the world where you could discuss the latest details of antisemitism with your hairdresser, and it wouldn’t even be that weird.

        • WashedOver
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          51 year ago

          The Dearborn Independent from Henry Ford was one of the most wildly distributed papers of its time due to the Ford dealer network and how Ford was lauded as a the hero that brought the car to rural folk giving them freedom.

          It’s unfortunate that his antisemitic views were often the main things one would find in his paper that many would have just accepted as fact. Ford a brilliant man in many ways but this was one of the few ways in which he wasn’t.

        • Call me Lenny/Leni
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          61 year ago

          I’m not saying there was stigma on it, I’m only saying it wasn’t some alien idea that, just maybe, the Hitler guy might be shady.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni
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    131 year ago

    In both eras, colonialism and militarism were still going on, and even though many powers condemned these two things, if we rule out things that weren’t obvious like being a murderer, you could bet on supporting desertion and draft dodging getting you cancelled in all countries. This is literally how Red Badge of Courage starts.

  • @Odelay42@lemmy.world
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    911 year ago

    Trans rights are human rights

    Gay rights are human rights

    Black peoples rights are human rights

    Women’s rights are human rights

    Human rights exist.

    • Tar_Alcaran
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      191 year ago

      “Trans isn’t a word. Everyone has a right to be gay, jolly and happy or whatever synonym you want to use.”

      • someone from 1823, when “gay” meant “cheerful”.
    • Poland, Warsaw (then had separate legal systems), The Netherlands, Bavaria, the Dominican Republic and El Salvador all decriminalized same sex relationships in the 1810s and 20s. So it wasn’t exactly all completely dead-against.