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So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I’m really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt
It’s not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
+1 for this
Matrix https://matrix.org is a decentralized alternative
there’s a wrapper for matrix Rocket Chat (a wrapper of matrix) https://www.rocket.chat/
Sometimes a public utility doesn’t need to be decentralized to function effectively
It helps, but also the lack of e2ee is a pretty hard sell…
then let me introduce you to IRC
Then Mastodon are not for you either. Nothing is stored encrypted there.
Mastodon is not a real time chat
Nope, it’s not. But Revolt and Mastodon share the same gimmic: no encryption. Why (as far as I know)? You can install these 2 on your own server, making you own your data and also handling the data. E2EE will not be important in that case (according to me). However, encryption (not E2EE) are important in any service.
Revolt and Mastodon aren’t even in the same ball park.
Nope, I know :) I just stated the encryption likeness between those 2. If the user don’t like and refuse to use Revolt because it’s not E2EE by default, then the user would have the same oppinion towards Mastodon. That’s all. Nothing more.
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Also just to clarify, we do think e2ee for direct messages on Mastodon would be awesome. Maybe unlisted posts, but I’m not sure how that’d work. Still, like they said, Mastodon is a public-first platform.
Honestly it’s just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won’t be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
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You’re free and welcome to use encryption very frequently. Matrix also keeps a list of everyone who has read each and every message.
Such is life being on the internet, really.
You couldn’t stop it even on IRC. At least here you can host your own Matrix instance.
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Most important to me: Which of them is easier to self-host?
I’ve been running a Mumble server for my friends for over a decade now and I’d like… something more without having to get too technical. Mumble is literally just a single apt-get and you’re basically done, so that’s about the level of technical expertise that I bring to the table. I’ve tentatively looked into other solutions over the years but I always feel my attention drifting when the setup-tutorial covers multiple pages and starts with manually configuring some database or certificate authority or whatever. Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to get too ranty.
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Why not Element/Matrix?
Revolt is simple and works almost exactly the same as Discord. Element requires understanding federation, and it’s “spaces” feature is not the same as Discord “servers”.
Really wish that IRC allowed to have all the new bells and whistles that Discord has. Avatars, in-line images and videos, streaming rooms, etc…
yet another other miserable attempt at doing IRC
It has been a long time since I used IRC, but or it has changed a lot or it’s not similar.
Could you send inline images? Could you assign granular permission and roles ? Can have several rooms with access and visibility control of each of them? Can you make audio rooms? Can you react to mensages?
I’ve never had the need for any of those things. A text-only chat is a cleaner and better chat. Specially reactions, those are rather absurd and irritating.
Audio is definitely a different use case, and Mumble works great for that. You can just host both on the same domain and be done with it. You could even write a client that supports both IRC and Mumble if you wanted to, instead of constantly reinventing the wheel.
And I’m sure you could implement in-line images in IRC if you wanted, after all Twitch’s chat is IRC and they have images.
Show me an IRC where I can share images and then jump into a jitsi voice call or whatever, I’d use it every day. I’m in discord, matrix, all of this shit. I mostly wanna send memes to a few friends 😮💨
Edit: reactions are pretty sweet in my eyes btw. I use a lot of emojis.
A lot of Lemmy people seem to vehemently hate emojis
Cool 😋
What communities are there on Revolt? Anything big? Like GrapheneOS, Linux Mint, Signal, Monero?
I know that Matrix has their communities.
Nah I think I prefer Matrix. The Revolt servers have that same unproductive samesy flair as discord.
Femboy server uwu cutesy safe (but slightly horny) space. Trans programmer server yay!!It’s all junk. Matrix has less, but the servers I’m in are trying to do something new. They’re trying to fight the patterns and habits and create something more mindful, safe, and engaging.








