if they outright forced us to stop day one there’d be outrage, so they instead ease us in. first a popup, then a timed popup, slowly leading to their actual goal but without the risk of an initial outrage. i know this is an extreme comparison but we’re like lambs to a slaughter
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This is similar to what viruses do to determine if they’re on a real computer instead or just a sandbox. Most antiviruses will run an unfamiliar program in a sandbox (virtual machine) and if it starts doing malware things, flags it and sends it to quarantine. One known weakness of these sandboxes is that they cannot interact with the program, so a lot of viruses will put their payload behind a window. Any interaction with the window will signal to the virus that it’s on a real computer and it will deliver the payload, otherwise it will keep quiet to stay under the radar.
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As with all “why don’t you just” statements I’m sure the engineers thought of that. Personally I think it is kind of nice that someone with technical know-how can completely neuter a virus that’s literally active and running on their computer by doing absolutely nothing.
Virtual staredown.
Thank you. I’d forgotten that uBlock had the zapper function
I started getting the popups recently. Tried blocking the elements with uBlock, but in turn it would pause the video 2 seconds in. Pretty annoying. So I said screw it and installed an extension that would redirect the youtube watch page to an Invidious instance. Might as well make the transition now before they completely block adblockers for good. Screw Google!
Google’s pretty bad
Indeed. They are starting to piss me off with all their BS.
It’s pretty grim
I’ll be a bit sad if YT becomes unwatchable without blocking ads but I’ll get over it and watch something else somewhere else. Same as I did with Reddit.
Get Freetube, it’s FOSSome, you don’t even need a Google account to subscribe. All content and history is local on your machine, it just pulls the feed from the channels you ask it to. No ads, no tracking, Linux client available, you can even skip sponsor chapters and download videos right from the native client app.
FOSSome?
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I guess it’s like a foursome, but with you and 3 open source contributors
As a geeky guy who is into group sex and coding, this is right up my alley~
nsfw
learn to use these
There’s outrage alright.
https://lemmy.world/post/6811788
https://lemmus.org/post/1138230
https://links.roobre.es/post/451
https://lemmy.world/post/6755067
https://kbin.melroy.org/m/til/t/52393
https://lemmy.world/post/6702422
https://lemmy.myserv.one/post/3116340
https://infosec.pub/post/3519906
https://lemmy.world/post/6697059
Well just look at the youtube sub on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/1792um0/let_that_sink_in_before_you_defend_a_billion/
99% of comments are youtube apologists
Hopefully most of those are bot comments & the mods are probably youtube employees
Looks like astroturfing to me
No offense, but you went to a subreddit that’s likely to have people who enjoy google products and because of that are less likely to be critical even when they don’t agree with the company. Have you looked at the r/technology subreddit posts about this issue? Or r/privacy or any of the other subreddits that might give a better view?
This is like going to the apple subreddit to find out if people are outraged bout the price of iPhones.
I love these types of posts and comments. I get about halfway in to realize I don’t know shit about my fellow human beings and how they’re navigating/viewing the world. This is one hot glittery pony show of a society circling the sewer drain.
not as large as qhat it wouldve been
Each one of those posts has hundreds or more comments and upvotes. Lemmy is still relatively small. I’m positive this is all over Reddit but I’m not gonna go check. The outrage is here and it is thriving where posts directly pointing to solutions are not (they get maybe ten to twenty upvotes and a handful of comments each). There have been multiple articles in the news cycle about it.
It was similar with the Netflix price hike and the Netflix anti-password sharing going public. Remains to be seen whether that outrage will actually amount to anything.
It won’t amount to much if there’s no viable alternative.
Moving to piped, invidious, freetube etc is what most with big enough outrage are doing (including me) but let’s face it: that’s just kicking the can a bit further down the road. Can’t “FOSS” YouTube, what they’re rendering usable again still is fully owned by Google and they’ll look in to deploying techniques to put an end to that Foss frontending too, eventually.
I would call it pretty fast, I got the popup for the first time less than a month ago and I already rely on the magic uBlock does to even be able to watch YouTube.
I got the pop ups for a while, then they went away. They are back again. Fortunately I am still able to ignore it and not see any adds. If there is a time where I am forced to watch adds, it will hurt, but I will give up YouTube. I hope others give it up and don’t cave if it comes to that.
I gave up reddit the day apollo stopped working and I will quit youtube the day I have to see any ads whatsoever. It just frees up time to do other, more fulfilling, things.
What, you mean that clicking “not interested” in the fourteenth WW2 documentary in a row about “What if the nazis won” isn’t fulfilling??
The solution is to use Firefox or even better librewolf with uBlock. If you already have these, purge the filters cache and then update it back again. If you still have problems with this after doing these steps, there’s probably some extension conflicting with it or an extra manual filter you added. Cheers
Why librewolf is better?
It’s a privacy oriented fork of Firefox. Removes telemetry, pocket button, sync to cloud, etc.
This project is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom.
LibreWolf is designed to increase protection against tracking and fingerprinting techniques, while also including a few security improvements. This is achieved through our privacy and security oriented settings and patches. LibreWolf also aims to remove all the telemetry, data collection and annoyances, as well as disabling anti-freedom features like DRM.
The only annoying thing libre doesn’t turn off automatically is WeRTC which can be turned off in the flags with media.peerconnection.enabled set to false.
Can those settings be disabled in firefox but are not as default?
Sorry for ly aweful English.
They can. Though it’s just easier to use librewolf in my opinion. There’s a project called arkenfox which makes this easier to config settings manually for Firefox. Take a look into it.
From the description, it seems to all be things I usually disable manually. So yes, at a glance they are just disabled
whats a pocket button
Pocket is an add on for storing articles to read later. Used to be a separate product, but Mozilla bought them and integrated it into Firefox.
At some point YouTube kind of block your account with the message instead of the video.
Honestly haven’t had that issue at all yet. If that happens, this userscript can be a solution (with something like grease monkey) https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/477725-youtube-iframe-adblocker. Using NoScript to turn off JS should also work. As a last resort you can use a script that redirects YouTube videos to invidious or some other alternative.
whats a filter cache
Saved data from filters in ublock I think
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10 million on uBlock alone, easy to see how thats a huge untapped market
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How can YouTube interfer with adblockers in Firefox/Librewolf/IceCat?
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You sound like you are parroting and self-aggrandizing or contrived.
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They’re trying
wdym
People have been chasing adblockers since the dawn of the internet.
