It’s almost like people don’t like it when a bunch of outsiders move into their land & kick them off.
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Can I introduce you to all of human history?
Mass genocide happening: I sleep
They fight back one time: OMG IM SO SCARED FOR THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY
I am a realist. What do you think is going to happen to Palestine in the near future if both or any one of them escalates?
The top comment in this thread is
i want to wake up to a world without Israel
This goading and dangerous rhetoric is spewed by the uniparty in reverse, i.e against Palestine right now.
Here is a measured response btw
Just going to ignore the fact that Israel has been escalating for well over the last decade??
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i want to wake up to a world without Israel
Not just without Israel but where every single colonizer is either doing hard labor to pay for their crimes, deported to Europe or dead
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You and Hams have something in common.
Those 8 fascists who downvoted every single comment in support of Palestine, show yourselves.
I guess two of them either got themselves banned already or had me blocked.
What lovely news to wake up to. Sigh.
Feel free to report antisemitic comments, but antizionism isn’t antisemitism and acting like it is is antisemitic and will net you a ban starting once this comment is posted.
Reporting borderline stuff will not get you banned but as someone who had family at auschwitz I’m tired of blatant antisemitism in defense of a settler colonialist apartheid regime.
Hall of shame:
@ElMemerino@lemmy.world
Also any expression of support for the Israel led genocide of Palestinians or any sort bigotry will not be tolerated as per Rule 3.
antizionism isn’t antisemitism
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Clap LOUDER for those at the back! This is exactly what my Palestinian friend helped elaborate to me, the single biggest confusion sowed by western Zionist supporting rags into masses.
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Associated Press: Hamas militant group has started a war that ‘Israel will win,’ defense minister says
New York Times: Gaza and Israel on War Footing After Militants Launch Surprise Assaults
Arab News: Hamas launches surprise attack as gunmen enter Israel
Israel Hayom: Hamas claims dozens of Israelis captured in surprise offensive; 4 Israelis killed by rocket fire
RT: Hamas launches major attack on Israel
SCMP: Rocket barrages from Gaza strike Israel amid Hamas infiltrations
Xinhua: Barrages of rockets fired from Gaza into Israeli cities
The Guardian: Israel declares state of war after Hamas fires thousands of rockets and ‘militants cross border’
BBC: Palestinian gunmen infiltrate Israel after rocket barrage from Gaza
Free Palestine!
Israeli air raids have hit the Gaza Strip after Hamas announced the start of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood against Israel.
The group running the besieged enclave says it has fired thousands of rockets towards Israel. Several casualties have been reported.
Please please run them out in the ocean.
Please hit Israel colonisers out of the park, literally. Fuck Israel to death.
Sincerely, someone who has a long term Palestinian friend
Edit: asked him, he’s okay and far
I remember being in school back in like 97,98 the teacher would turn on the news in first period. All I remember was everyday that school year there was coverage of Israel and Gaza blowing each other up.
I wish and yearn for complete destruction of “Israel”. I want all of the settlers who chose to be there to be forced to do labor to rebuilt what they destroyed and the rest to be deported back to where they came from before trying to colonize Palestine.
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Both sides? Both sides?! The Zionists are genocidal thiefs! They are burglarizing Palestine and attempting to colonize it. Any action that keeps them out is justified. If it discourages more from settling, I belive that Palestine may take absolutely any action and that would be justified. Hamas fights for national liberation. My suggestion is the nicest, most peaceful option that I believe is possible for the Zionists scum
Could you please elaborate why it’s not both sides? I’m being sincere when I say that I’ve read wayyy too much to actually understand their situation anymore. My current understanding is that while both sides have engaged in reckless acts of violence against each other, the conflict is asymmetrical with Israel being more responsible because of their considerable military and economic power advantage. Although I am also left with the question, what would I do if my hope was being taken by invaders? It’s too complicated for me lol.
It’s not both sides because Palestine is defending themselves. They are trying to stop Zionists from colonizing their land. The Zionists are trying to commit genocide and they are defending against it. Saying it’s both sides is like saying it was both sides with Italian partisans and the Italian fascists. Obviously one of those is the aggressor and one is defending the oppressed people
It’s too complicated for me lol.
One side that’s literally bombing hospitals and media towers, storming into mosques and hospitals to throw tear gas at people, and invading people’s home so they can either do a “search” where they leave the house in disarray, or wake up all the family members at 12am to photograph them using an app called BlueWolf (it basically puts the Palestinians into a database where IDF/Police can scrutinise them), and assassinate random people on the street, as well as the dozens of cameras and microphones on surveillance poles, watch towers, and illegally installed on some people’s roofs for good measure. They also killed a journalist (Shireen Abu Akleh), and the Israeli propaganda machine instantly went into overdrive, trying to say that it was Hamas, but was quickly debunked. (he war criminals didn’t get shit because it’s Israel).
A whole army that’s designed to intimidate and dehumanise another group, with the ideology that the Palestinians are sub-humans/terrorists, which is propagated by Israeli media, which Russia is now using that formula in their propaganda to report on the war in Ukraine, yeah that definitely sounds “complicated”.
One of the factors in making your view on Ukraine different is that Russia doesn’t have a lobbying system like Israel does. Israel has a huge lobbying system (mostly in the USA but there’s also ones in Canada) where they basically spew out Israeli propaganda and control the media to influence public opinion to have a positive view on Israel. They even have war rooms where Mossad bots on fake accounts endlessly spew Israeli talking points, much like the Kremlin bots. Russia wishes they could have a lobbying system like that.
To see the propaganda for yourself, just compare when Israel gets striked by Hamas rockets and the media (especially Israeli media) is blaring the red alarm, to Russian media reporting on Ukrainian drone strikes in Russia. You’ll find out that they basically use the same format. Over-exaggerate the bad guys, call everyone who’s in that country a catch-all term, and have the country who’s attacked seem like they have done absolutely nothing wrong to deserve this, they’re always a victim.
I do support the Ukrainian people. Just putting that out there. I think both the invasion of Ukraine and occupation of Palestine is illegal. Are there shades of gray? There are, but only focusing on that stuff distracts you from the bigger picture.
Having double standards like this isn’t okay. You say you’re all for justice but then one conflict comes up where it couldn’t be any clearer on who the aggressor is, but because of Israeli propaganda influencing the media, it’s just too complicated to wrap your head around.
That’s a good explanation, but you don’t need to be quite so pushy. I don’t think I was expressing pro-Israeli sentiments. In fact I think I was quite clear that I view them as ‘the bad guys’ in this. I think where I get caught up is that if I were to have some ability to pass judgement on both of them I would judge Israel as being wrong, bad, criminal, whatever, whereas I can’t judge the Palestinians at all. They’re fighting for their existence. I don’t have any power, so really my opinion is pointless.
I understand that Palestina is the side that has been wronged first and had more of its people killed. I still don’t see killing innocents in revenge for the death of other inocents as an acceptable or useful strategy
Would you move somewhere where there was a very high probability of you being killed? Anything is justified because it keeps more settlers from coming
From the river to the sea!
