They will not get involved with you if you don’t approach them. Don’t do business with them. These guys are not messing around.

However, I have had numerous experiences with people in the group you mentioned. I lived in a neighborhood where they had a clubhouse and it was much quieter and had less crime during their time there.

I worked in a kitchen at a restaurant they frequented for private parties close to that clubhouse. They smoked so much hash. This was decades ago. They tipped very well, were polite to the staff, and never caused a scene (we had a separate entrance in the back they used).

I have been aquatinted with people who were in different states of involvement with them. They had different outcomes. Some fine (tangential to crime not really involved) and others who fared worse. The fared worse guys were like useful pretty criminals who they took advantage of because they wanted to be associated with that group and wouldn’t take the hint to get lost. I’m not discussing specifics.

Finally, if you’re life their neighbour and they ask you to come over for a beer just say you’re busy. If a guy shows up from out of town and you run into him in the driveway don’t ask why he’s there. They won’t involve you in their business but might notice if you seem curious.

My ex’s parents were in one. They’re some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met, so it just kinda confirmed to me that biker gangs are for terminally stupid people who think the vroom vroom sounds cool and that leather vests are badass.

The biker gangs in my area are typically just a few steps down from the KKK. They won’t outright do anything awful, but they are generally not nice folk.

Their members feel like boys the size of men, incapable of realizing that the public view them as a moronic nuisance, and not cool or tough.

fag /faɡ/

noun: fag; plural noun: fags

A person who owns or frequently rides a Harley Davidson motorcycle.

(South Park)

I’m in the UK and Imo they’re not good people. I know several tattooists who have been threatened/had their place trashed by them when they’ve opened a shop in my city.

I also went to a Hells Angels bar once when a music event was being hosted there and they were awful people. Charged more for drinks if they didn’t like the look of someone, one guy threatened me because a glass fell on the floor and smashed (it was nowhere near me) and made me clean it up. I’m a small woman, I was scared, so I did it and left 😬

Imagine the intersection of the mafia and a bunch of college football players. Its a very tribal mentality. If you’re nice and polite, treat them with the respect you would treat anyone who has the power to fuck your life up (but dont kiss their ass… imagine how nice you would be to someone from the IRS who just has “some questions” about your last return) and dont put your nose in their business, they will more likely than not be perfectly fine.

But disrespect to one is disrepect to all, as a group they ARE involved in organised crime to some degree and while some of them are regular guys, some are cold blooded violent people.

Just be warned though, if you have a job or may apply for a job that involves security clearances. Having 1%ers phone numbers on your phone or as Facebook friends can throw flags.

I live in an area where the Pagans have a pretty sizeable presence but no real competition so we don’t exactly have turf wars or anything going on. They definitely have their criminal activity going on, but by and large it’s out of sight and out of mind unless you go looking for it or are unlucky enough to live next to them or something. In general if you keep your nose out of their business they’ll keep out of yours. They can even be pretty reasonable at times, I have a friend lived basically next door to a bar they used to hang out at a lot, and after last call all the bikes leaving at like 2AM made a bunch of racket. His dad pretty much just politely asked their leader if they wouldn’t mind leaving the other direction where there weren’t really any houses instead of going by the residential areas, and that was pretty much the end of it, never really had a problem with them again, and a few years later they ended up finding a different bar to hang out at.

Don’t get me wrong, they’re bad dudes, you don’t want to get involved with them, but if you don’t do anything outrageously stupid you’re probably not going to have a problem with them. That said, out of an abundance of caution if you can, it’s probably best to just avoid them and the places they frequent altogether.

Pretty much everyone around here knows a few pagans or knows someone who does. Some of them think it’s cool, and those people tend to be idiots. Otherwise it’s just kind of a fact of life, everywhere has their local troublemakers, ne’er-do-wells, assholes, and criminals, it just happens that some of them around here wear denim vests.

Also for what it’s worth, I live in the suburbs, so probably not exactly the epicenter of where the worst of their activities take place.

So, I have very limited experience with 2 of them. One was Banditos. I was the bouncer at a dive bar on the weekends as a second job. This was 20 years ago. Banditos started hanging out there, and honestly they were pretty cool. They were loud, and drank a lot, but they never caused me any problems, and helped me solve a couple of problems in my time there. Some of them were local FOP which seems a little gross, but they never bothered me.

The other was black pistons I think? I don’t remember. My friends dad was in it, and she and I got to hang out at their clubhouse some. That was almost exactly like you would think it was.

I only hung out there like 2 or 3 times with her. It was a shitty looking trap house in the hood. There was Nazi memorabilia all over the place. There was a bar in the middle of the living room. Middle aged white dudes drunk and geeked on meth. Lots of guns.

One night one of the dudes showed up with a black crackhead prostitute from the neighborhood. I know she was from the neighborhood because she said she had been there a few times before, and I heard them talking about “seeing her around”. Anyway, she was running around naked half the night doing Hitler salutes with those chuckle-fucks. Drinking whiskey, and smoking, probably meth. The whole situation was incredibly off putting.

They are mostly racist tweaker assholes

In my last job we had a Hells Angels Supporter Clubhouse on our complex… well, we never had any problems with them, and our encounters mostly comprised of a “good morning” or something like that. Sometimes they held barbecues where i attended and, what can i say, just a bunch of more or less nice motorcycle riding greybeards.

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There’s a Hell’s Angels chapter up the street from my house. Very likely because there is also a world famous road in the city that motorcyclists love to ride.

I’m a motorcyclist as well, but I ride a sports bike and I’m not with any club. But as a rider on the streets, I see a lot of other motorcyclists and they are all generally very friendly to me when we pass each other. We do the typical waves and nods and also the alerting if one of us noticed cops in the direction of the other biker (pat your helmet to signal this to the biker on the opposing lane if you have a cop behind you or if one has a trap behind you or something similar).

I’ve heard of beefs between the motorcycles that Hell’s Angels types ride (those Harley-like bikes) and sports bikes like mine, but I’ve never had any problems, myself.

But I keep to myself and I don’t particularly like groups, so that may also have something to do with it.

When driving my car, I see motorcyclists a lot as well and never had issues there either.

As others said, you keep your distance and you’re generally okay. It’s when you get in their business or make them mad that you bring trouble directly on yourself. Though, I do agree with someone else’s sentiment that a lot of their illegal dealings do have impacts on the community, at large, so this isn’t always a sure fire way of protecting yourself. But this is what you can do, at most, to ensure you’re out of harms way. Generally they don’t want to bring attention to themselves, as making life harder for people in the area will make the cops eye their chapter more closely and that’s not good for their business.

Some biker gangs are trying to look out for their community. Most of the time, that community stops when your skin color gets too dark. Hell’s Angels are no exception to this. Co-founder Sonny Barger said in a 2000 BBC interview, “The club, as a whole, is not racist but we probably have enough racist members that no black guy is going to get in it.” So essentially they are saying racism isn’t a deal breaker for them.

So they are extremely racist, typically fascist as by their organization structure, and typically don’t add to society.

That all said, there are exceptions to every rule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikers_Against_Child_Abuse is a biker gang against child abuse. They go out of their way to keep children safe. Although there are a few members who have actually been convicted of the very thing the gang hopes to prevent. So, overall I’m still suspicious if the BACA’s intentions are truly their intentions. Additionally, you could see that BACA intimidation and vigilanteism are likely not a good answer to the problem they are trying to solve.

Hell’s Angels lived next door to me 25 years ago. Always doing meth and taking about weird stuff.

I lived close to their “national hq” in my country for years, and apart from the occasional loud motorcycle they were absolutely unnoticable. I wouldn’t even have known they were there had someone not pointed it out to me.

As others have said, stay out of their way and they will stay out of yours.