EDIT: I didn’t realize the anger this would bring out of people. It was supposed to be a funny meme based on recent real-life situations I’ve encountered, not an attack on the EU.
I appreciate the effort of the EU cookie laws. The practice of them just doesn’t live up to the theory of the law. Shady companies are always going to find a way to be shady.
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even worse offenders are the ones with tick boxes for “Legitimate Interest”, since legitimate interest is another grounds for processing (just ads freely given consent is one), the fact you got a “tick” box for it makes it NOT legitimate interest within the confines of the GDPR.
it also doesn’t matter what technology you use whether its cookies / urls / images / local storage / spy satellites. its solely about how you use the data…
IIRC the EU also ruled that burying the rejection options under additional links counts as a violation. Hence why Google now has a Reject button next to the accept button. Most sites still do that.
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Most sites definitely don’t do this
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Yeah this is very common, I don’t know why other people on here are gaslighting like it doesn’t happen. It’s this way for major sites like YouTube/Twitter/Twitch/etc too. Hell even embedding a YouTube video on a site is violating GDPR. It’s a good idea, but needs a version 2.0 patch to fix some exploits.
why are the EU the only people that bother to actually govern in a modern and helpful way
They’re still widely used for some (illegal) reason
Because they rest safe in the knowledge that you rarely if ever get taken to court for it. There are millions of web pages, it needs people to take action to do something about it, and just clicking “Yes all of them” to access the content you were just trying to get to is a far better solution in most situations than hiring a lawyer and investing a few years of legal proceedings, nevermind the money.
They found a way around: accept all cookies or pay 2€/months. And it was decied legal by GDPR authorities
Those pages can just fuck off. There are many more pages.
Of course that’s just my opinion.
But what are they going to do about it?
“Here’s a fine, if you don’t pay it your site can no longer operate in the EU”
“… ok”
Then half the web violates it or there is One Pixel button that closes the damn popup.
Any website that does that I just close the tab.
I’m working hard to make sure all websites do that.
You will be internet free in 5 years. Yes, I wear a cape
Display name does not check out as a matter of fact
We will all touch grass
my brother in christ there wont be any grass to touch soon
A world full of only ass and gas is not a world I want to be in
In THIS economy?!
No you see he has grass growing in his keyboard so he can touch grass without going outside
Than I will go without internet. I’m over 40 I know how life was like before internet. I’ll be that crazy old man in someone’s neighborhood. So kindly please accept my GO FUCK YOURSELF award for your efforts.
I thought you didn’t care. Now you do?
Nah I just wanted to touch grass…
You should travel to Europe sometime and try to use the web
I also live in Europe and almost all websites display a dialog that asks you to choose cookie preferences. However, it seems that some few websites, mostly german (spiegel.de, gutefrage) that give you the opetion to browse with ads and cookies or pay. I do not use those websites and I imagine it is not legal.
I refuse to go to sites that do this, I also refuse to go to sites that block adblock…and specially the sites that detect and block private browsing, that one shouldn’t even be a thing
Sites that block adblock - I have network based filtering I’m not going to take the time to specifically figure out what ad providers you’re using (which is probably that same as everyone else) just to unblock your shitty site.
LOL, I also use DNS based filtering soooo I feel your pain.
Hilariously, I find the Pi-hole feature “disable for 5 seconds” often works because it’ll be down for long enough to load the page but not the ads.
I don’t use pihole…didn’t know that was a thing…still don’t plan on using pihole but that’s cool
Reminds me, I need a pihole
Why the fuck would they prevent private browsing? I use that a lot to be sure the session is closed correctly.
There’s lots of newspaper sites in the US, that do this. They’ll be like “wanna use private browsing, make an account, or go visit from normal browsing.” Idk why they do it but they do. Apparently there are discrepancies in the way browsers handle persistent storage features between private and non-private browsing that allow for detection
I use this to deal with paywalled articles.
This comment needs more upvotes…I did not know this was a thing and I’ll try to remember it next time I hit a wall
Bigger walls, bigger ladders!!!
I’d guess they just want to keep track of what you read and how many articles. You still can wipe that information from your browser but private browsing makes it more convenient so they ban it
I don’t use adblock, and yet i keep getting “disable adblock to view this” messages, fuck this shit
Probably Adguard or Pihole? (Some network level blocking?)
I did have adguard set up, but i disabled it thinking it could help with this issue, which it sadly didn’t
The fun part is that websites that do this are illegal in the EU
They need to start flexing that 4% revenue / year fines
Nearly all of these are illegal, but sadly there is little enforcement when it comes to this. (Tracking must be opt-in, not opt-out. Ignoring a banner must be interpreted as declining. Opting out must be a simple option, not navigating a complex and misleading menus. The users choice applies to any form of tracking, not just cookies…)
I feel like people would have responded to this meme better if you didn’t depict the European Union as an NPC
Especially compared to some scummy corps.
They’re the ones who made the law. Who else should have been in the meme?
The businesses who are actually doing this shit and not the people actually trying to solve issues in the world lmfao.
Serious question: I know that there are tracking cookies and the user should be able to decline those,but most sites have an auth cookie that stores you’re credentials. The devs can store it in a different place like local storage but thats really unsecured.what can the devs do in this situation when the user decline all cookies?
Usually the prompts are specifically for tracking cookies, not essential ones for login. Alternatives without cookies:
- URL sessions
- Tokens
- OAuth/OIDC third party
- Local/Session Storage (ditto - mind the risks)
The EU is not stupid. They categorized cookies into the necessary ones for site-usage and those that aren’t. So developers just categorize their session cookie (rightfully) as necessary and that’s it.
What the dev can do if user decline processing of personal data is not store such personal data in cookies or anywhere.
Or even better, do not track the user so the consent would only be needed in for example registration form.
The GDPR is not “cookie law”, it only prohibits tracking users in a way not essential to the operation of the site using locally stored identifiers (cookies, local storage, indexed DB…)
Storing a cookie to track login sessions, or color scheme preference does not require asking the user or allowing them to decline.
Shrewd businessmen: 1
tyrannical big government: 0
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Not at all my experience, but ok.
- This was not about cookies, but processing of personal data and new definitions of such data. Cookies was just an example.
- By those laws, forcing user to consent with denying access to the service is declared illegal.
dumbest shit ever
That’s literally the point though…
No? If a website refuses to load because you refused tracking cookies, it’s still illegal under GDPR
I don’t give a shit about cookies my browser just cleans after me and next time i open it everything is like new.
Road to hell, good intentions and all that. Government fundamentally misunderstanding the role of cookies and the fact that browsers can handle user privacy with trivial effort by default rather than having every single website annoy the fuck out of you with a million goddamn notifications before actually showing you what you want to see.
The annoying popups are an act of malicious compliance from data harvesting companies. The tracking industry wants people to associate the right to privacy with stupid annoyance, so that people will stop demanding privacy.
The legislation does not say anything about cookies. It’s about rights and responsibilities in data collection (no matter how it’s done technically). The “consent” part of it exists as a compromise, because there has been heavy lobbying against the legislation.
This is not a technical problem — we’ve had many technologies for it, and the industry has sabotaged all of them. There was the P3P spec in 2002! It has been implemented in IE that had 90%+ market share back then. And Google has been actively exploiting a loophole in IE’s implementation to bypass it and have unlimited tracking. Google has paid fines for actively subverting Safari’s early anti-tracking measures. Then browsers tried DNT spec as the simplest possible opt-out, and even that has been totally rejected by the data harvesting industry. There are easy technical solutions, but there are also literally trillions of dollars at stake, and ad companies will viciously sabotage all of it.
Well said, appreciate the write up ☺️
The second that popup about cookies shows up I immediately backout and not use the site.
That’s like every site. How do you use the internet at all?
It’s becoming a lot easier to use the internet a lot less. It’s been turned into such a user-hostile space so domineered by corporations and fascists that most of the internet doesn’t really hold much of an appeal anymore, at least for me.
If the internet died tomorrow and didn’t come back, I’d be annoyed about not being able to use it to order food, manage my bank account, or watch shows/movies, but the world would likely be an overall better place once logistics re-adapted to not having it.
The internet was cool for the first 10-15 years, but it’s been a rapidly worsening cesspit for a long time. Nothing the internet can offer us is worth also tolerating it as a tool for inescapable government and corporate surveillance, and as the most effective imagineable breeding ground for fascism and disinformation.
The internet makes our lives worse in so many more ways than it imporves them, and people are too fucking addicted to it to give a shit.
