True, the fact that you can play modern AAA games as good or better than windows these days means it is flat out a development issue.
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Although I heard it’s because a lot of the tooling for games doesn’t exist on Linux.
So it would actually be the developer’s developer that is too blame or is that all the job of the developer?
Either way it’s because game industry isn’t as mature as on Windows and doesn’t have enough money to fast track it like consoles do.
Although I guess that is a bit of a chicken and egg problem but not really it’s more a kick back grease my palm corruption issue.
Ps. i know what you are thinking:
'Isn’t this a bit long for a spoiler?"
And to that I say:
‘If you preschoolers could read more than one line without getting scared off I wouldn’t have to bury any nuance in a spoiler tag.’
Anyways it’s getting late and I just took a melatonin and I don’t want to stay up too much longer because that really messes me up when I take melatonin and still can’t sleep, is that just me? Idk maybe leave a response answering it so I know you found this.
Thanks for asking and have a good night Love and kisses yours truly random guy on the Internet.
You can hang up now that was the end, what are you waiting for? Is anyone actually going to read this far? You know when the comment turns to rambling it is ok to stop reading.
Seriously, go! This is obviously a waking melatonin induced nightmare, this isn’t interesting.
Ok, I am actually going to leave now, don’t worry about me I don’t actually get nightmares from melatonin but I’ve heard it’s a common symptom but I’ve been actually prescribed it by a sleep doctor I know for a fact that I do need it go worry about something important.
Anyways now that I’ve weeded out all the illiterate people we can talk about mature subjects like they used to on late night TV so the kids didn’t watch anything spicy although that was kids shit compared to what we have now So what about that war with Iran? That was some crazy shit huh? I mean I don’t like when people die but like war is a necessary part of life I personally believe there is no good in war and the only good from war is what you get from it the consequences of war might be good even if you disagree with the actual killing of people so I guess my opinion is that if the war in Iran leads to a better tomorrow then it was worth it, not “Just” because once again you can’t be a good person and kill another person you would need a God to dictate that since you cannot self declare yourself above an equal but you can take the most rational actions possible and in the end aren’t we all a collection of action? And wouldn’t the best action taker be the most moral person?
I don’t know but I really do have to let you go now good night and tell your mother I love her, actually love is a big word tell your mother I banged her and now we don’t know what to do with you, actually don’t tell her that but is there a chance you could like I don’t know not be here anymore? It’s not you it’s me well that’s not true at all it’s entirely your fault and you will probably go to hell but just remember your mother still loves you, not me though but you should also remember your mother is an Idiot.
Anyways good night.
Blaming the Publishers and Devs because it’s actually pretty hard to fuck up a game so that it doesn’t work on proton these days
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If there’s a game that can’t run on Linux in the current year then that’s intentional and it’s not worth anyone’s money.
Especially if they use an engine that natively supports Linux, they have no excuse not to release a Linux version.
Yes, they do. There is more than just the engine at play on compatibility. The main reason is actually usually the anti cheat.
Yeah I can’t play rainbow 6 siege since I switched to Linux but I’m staying strong. Fuck ubisoft. And fuck my friends for trying to make me go back to windoz.
The fact that it even supports vulkan, and BattleEye has a Linux version, they just don’t use it
They just don’t like linux. Even if you run it in a VM with VFIO they will still ban you.
And, that their UPlay (Don’t care aboyt the rename) launcher is probably one of the other companies, useless launcher which work the best via wine.
And apex legends started randomly banning Linux users again, how hard is it to fix the game that earns them millions of dollars every year? Unbelievable.
Because they’re not earning those millions from users. I have no data to back this up, but I’m sure even the Linux users that do play are less likely to spend money on the game.
Off topic but your username looks different in my inbox. It says Nate here but in my inbox is says alphapuggle. Btw I’m using eternity for lemmy might be a bug on the app.
Weird. I show up as Nate on my end too (using sync). Not sure why it’s different than everyone else but my username is alphapuggle@programming.dev
I mean, it is not a fault on Linux’s end. We have all the tools we need in the form of wine and dxvk, it’s the game which fails to work due to some obscure dependency or a mandatory rootkit. One great example is genshin- the game itself works flawlessly, but it has a rootkit which obviously does not work on Linux and you have to patch it out.
me, who doesn’t care who’s to blame, wishing the issue was fixed by anyone
At this point I wouldn’t be suprised that some dev companies are taking Microsoft kickback money under the table. There is really no excuse for a game not to work on Linux natively on 2023.
Well, the thing is that developers need to go out of their way to intentionally break Linux support. The community does 99% of the work in most cases. Launchers, along with anti-cheat are the most egregious.
Anti-cheat I can semi-understand, the developer has to do some work, but popular anti-cheats support Linux no problem.
Launchers, however are 100% useless other than Steam itself, I wish Valve would ban third-party launchers. I wouldn’t be surprised though if some publishers would pull their games from Steam if Valve outright banned them.
Jesus lol.
This is probably true for big games, but I wouldn’t get angry at any small developer for not supporting Linux. It’s just not worth it/still such a small base.
Most of the time indie games actually do run on Linux, it’s the games from big studios that don’t (in my experience)
all the indies I play run completely without issues, even those that don’t use major game engines like celeste and rain world
Most off-the-shelf game engines these days have been well tested with Proton.
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Luckily most of the small inde games always support Linux. Most of those devs don’t have a need or time to go out of their way to botch the support.
True. But small developers should support community owned things, as they are on their side. It’s not profitable in spreadsheet, but healthy for whole ecosystem.
Remember Windows creators are the ones having a dream for everything being on XBox and Microsoft Store.
Blaming myself because I put the CD in upside down
CD? What’s that grampa?
My experience is that all games run on Linux these days. Wine, DXVK and Vulkan are really good. The only games that don’t run are those that explicitly ban Linux users with some creepy anti-cheat.
A reminder that on last steam report, Linux overcome Mac as second in usage operating system. They don’t have to excuse of only support the top 2 OS.
Instead to refund is to negative review, games companies are much more affected by losing a positive rating that a refund.
I’m all for Linux but IMO it’s not quite ready for general public yet. Even distros like Mint are buggy and requires multiple restart every day. I would install it on my dad’s computer, but it’s not stable enough yet. But I think it’s a question of a few years, maybe months before it’s there.
EDIT: since people are asking, here are a few bugs that I encounterd over the last week or so. I’m a audio/multimedia worker so obviously I push my computers farther then average user. Still, I’m happy to know many people have manage to get it stable
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2 days ago, Ssomething went wrong with cinnamon. At first all the dektop would not appears when waking up from sleep. Had to restart every time or disable sleep. At some point, even restart would bring me a window saying Cinnamon session could not be loaded. I had to reinstall it from Grub. I dont see average users being able to do that. *It’s actually not fixed, sleep will mess up Cinnamon.
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yesterday, I tried to get my DAW (Reaper) to work with one of my audio interfaces. Drivers would not work correctly, sound was glitching. I messed up with pulse audio for 2 hours but never got it to work.
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this morning, te infamous NVIDIA driver wouldn’t let me turn off the mirror mode (I have a projector connected to the computer), I had to reboot.
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This morning also, I discoverd that Timeshift now only launch from the terminal.
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Over the past week, I had to completly reinstall mint, because I installed and uninstalled some audio extension and it messed up the OS. Since then many apps that use to ne there dont show up in the software manager, updating the repo doesn’t work, so I had to manually install using terminal.
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I’ve been fighting to get Da vinci resolve to work, tho it’s supposed to work natively. Took me around 4-5 hours overall.
I ACTUALLY LOVE LINUX. Indual boot it on my main PC an even installed it on my old 2015 MacBook. I think windows is garbage and full of bloatware, I hate apple but consider macOS a pretty good OS, but I think both are more stable for your average user.
I sincerely wish I could install Mint on my dad’s computer but I’m pretty sure he would me need my help at least twice a week . I dont see him or your average user playing with the terminal to install a basic app. I know it’s getting closer, but IMO it’s not there yet.
You need multiple restarts a day?
What are you doing?
See my edit!
I think you might have something wrong with your install. I do some heavy simulations (mostly Thermo and structural stress tests) with old hardware and haven’t had to restart ever.
I’m baffled as to how you can have so many problems.
I have to restart popos too, on my laptop, sometimes it doesnt start after opening it, idk doesnt really matter
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A friend recently asked me to play a game with him that had an anticheat that Intentinay made it impossible to play the game on linux
I had both linux and windows on my computer, but windows was broken
I tried to make a virtual machine and install windows on it, but i couldnt install it
He blamed all the problems on linux
Unfortunately for him, the game devs are the problem
I had the same with Genshin Impact; it refuses to install on Linux due to “cheating rootkits”, it even refuses to install on a Windows 11 VM in VirtualBox!
How does it do that‽VB is easy to detect
I’ve had issue with Stray not detecting my game controller. Went to the customer service and they told me it only runs on Windows…
I’ve successfully run it, only missing the controller support. Turns out I needed to install the udev support to solve it.
Weird. stray ran great on my deck out of the box via proton. Glad you got to play it though!
It was missing a udev setting. Fixed it by installing a package.
To be fair, game programming is very often hot garbage. Most things I run do not respond for a while at startup. How difficult can it be to decouple your threads?
Don’t cross the streams
