• justastranger@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s like every time there’s a war everybody forgets how fucking long they take. WW2 took six years. The Vietnam War took almost 20 years, same with the Afghanistan War. Anybody expecting anything solid within the next couple years is delusional. Ukraine is in it for the long haul.

    • SheeEttin@lemmy.worldBanned
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      That’s not strictly true. On the short end, there was the six-day war. On the long end, there was the hundred years’ war.

      Putin was clearly aiming for the short option, but then I suppose most belligerents usually are.

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      2 years ago

      We can hope Putin dies from being an old fuck and Russia gives up

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        The US is on its last legs though. It badly needed this win. The US falls before Putin dies.

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              Lol literally every single line of that post is absolutely nonsense.

              The US is on its last legs though.

              Lol in what universe? By way metric is the most powerful nation in the world limping along?

              It badly needed this win.

              If we badly needed a win we wouldn’t be sending 30+ year-old surplus gear. Ukraine would have F-35s instead of the air force trying to pawn off A-10s because we’re retiring them and don’t want to break them down.

              The US falls before Putin dies.

              Unless he’s a Highlander there’s no fucking chance.

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          I always take a peek at the comment history when I see things like this. And this guy basically just woke up to say things like this in one specific thread.

          I’m no longer a mod of anything these days, but if I had a mod-hammer I’d send you into the next galaxy.

          • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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            To say the truth. The Us is collapsing and soon their Nazi vassals in Ukraine and Isntreal will also suffer a complete and utter collapse (god willing)

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      That’s because it isn’t really about any particular military objective, it’s about creating business for the war industry.

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    The comment threads here are weird. Who, in their right mind, would ever support a country like Russia? It’s mind blowing.

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    Haters gonna hate. Still though, they’ll need to be cordial if some of these critics are also paying Ukrainian bills. Being rude is the fast track to falling out of favor with foriegn taxpayers.

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      They’re tired and weary from the onslaught of war fringe to safe their country from Putins aggression. Any dig at their progress is a dig at morale that spreads not only through the ranks, but also to the general public. There is a time for constructive criticism, but that should be done in private with actual solutions offered by those criticizing. I understand their needs to be some decorum but you can’t blame them for what I would consider a mild retort as their countrymen die trying to retake their land everyday.

    • Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world
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      The line doesn’t need to move quicker, and Ukraine moving slowly and shoring up every meter they take is going to work out better long term. They aren’t on a march to invade their lost territory, they are on a march to the Azov sea to cut Russia’s only remaining land access to Crimea.

      They are building a wall of men and weapons and once that reaches Azov they only have to defend it - and Ukraine are very good at defence.

      Then the only way Russia has to get anything to Crimea is the Kerch bridge which is almost inevitably going to be destroyed.

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    I wish we would just go ahead and give ATACMs. It would certainly speed things up.

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      I think that once the F16 training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field. I assume we are giving them jdams so they will be capable of striking hundreds of miles into occupied territory.

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        I think that once the HIMARS, BRADLEY, LEOPARD, STORM SHADOW, CLUSTER MUNITIONS, F16 training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field

        fast-forward 6 months

        I think that once the F22 training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field

        I think that once the F35 training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field

        I think that once the LGM-30G MINUTEMAN III NUCLEAR ICBM training is completed, it will really change the face of the battle field

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        Aren’t there only a handful of Uke pilots that knew english well enough to do the training? I’m all for sending Ukraine whatever they ask for, but I doubt F-16s will turn the tide

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    Not the correct response to say to those who hold the purse strings to your war chest. Especially one particular country whose political tide can turn and drown you.

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    What a coincidence, “shut up” is what I tell people who can’t stop talking about Ukraine and Russia.