• @nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I don’t know, and no one has any good arguments.

    A god is not required to explain anything in the universe, so I just assume a god does not exist.

    In the Cristian sense of god, god has no direct effect on the world, making the question meaningless.

    It would be the same as believing there is an teapot in orbit between Uranus and Neptune, too small and dark to see with any telescope. I could say it exists, and no one would be able to disprove me, but that doesn’t make it real.

    Strangely enough, if instead of a teapot (which at least would be possible, if hugly impractical to find) you use an entity that is invisible, intangible, does not do anything else that could allow it to be detected (most omni-gods), then billions believe it.

  • @negativeyoda@lemmy.world
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    92 years ago

    Who cares?

    If God exists in the Judeo Christian sense, they seemingly fucked off and stopped caring a while back and creation hit perpetual motion status a while back for better or worse

    If I was created in their image they totally get why I’m skeptical given the rest of their fan club and also gestures around

    If you want to believe in that stuff: do you. I legit hope you get something positive or if it, BUT… Just like crossfit, veganism or astrology; I can hang in a casual conversation, but don’t recruit me. I did my research. Not for me, thank you.

  • Pixel of Life
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    182 years ago

    Nope. At best, religion is a fairytale created for those who are uncomfortable with ignorance, and at worst, it’s a tool to control gullible people.

  • Chainweasel
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    2 years ago

    From the things I’ve seen in my lifetime I can only assume there’s no God, and if there is a God then he’s not worth worshipping for letting the amount of suffering exist as there is in the world today.

  • @coffee@lemm.ee
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    If there is a god, it takes a special sadist to allow the amount of torment present on earth.

    So I prefer to believe there’s no higher spirit ravelling in the suffering of all creatures rather than there being a malevolent creator watching with glee as we die a slow, painful death.

    • Doc Blaze
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      doesn’t really have to be a sadist. consider the theory were all just temporary beings in a experimental universe, observed by the supreme scientists that created us, almost like a child playing the sims. an ecological researcher observing a lion eating a deer isn’t supposed to interfere in natural selection for the deer’s sake if they want their study to have any merit.

      • Thelsim
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        42 years ago

        I love what-if scenarios :)

        I think you could go one step further with this theory and say that humans are not that important at all. I mean, why would we think we are? Because god told us so? Maybe he just said that to account for some variable and left it at that. Hasn’t looked back at what we were up to since.
        In some distant corner of the universe is a much nicer planet where everyone is living in harmony and peace. We’re just the control group :)

        • Doc Blaze
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          yes. once I listened to Neil Tyson describe how big the known universe actually is, it’s enough for the mathematical probability that we are the biggest influencers on it that exist to approach zero

        • Doc Blaze
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          true, but perhaps if we are created beings, could it be considered just a complication of the model? for example, consider a simulated universe like our own, where a being might get hit by a car. with AI evolved suffient enough, that AI would feel pain and perhaps suffer horrible injuries, even if the intention of creating the independent systems of automobile mechanics, and the laws of physics, and the evolution of the human nervous system wasn’t to induce a state of suffering.

          more specifically, on the biology of the nervous system, it’s interesting how fear/pain/suffering itself was just a byproduct of natural selection meant to help us by telling our dumb humanoid ancestors the things we should avoid - things that cause physical damage to our flesh or our mental state, or make it harder to survive. so these things are meant to help us, or we wouldn’t have evolved it at all.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      -42 years ago

      basically believing in god is akin to believing that this is all just a game of sims some twisted being is playing

  • God
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    Nope. Can’t understand the reasoning behind “some dude has always existed, you can’t see him though or touch him or anything, but he created everything! Also only we few know about this and only recently! All the other beliefs are wrong.” Where would a giant fairy come from? No idea.

    Spent a good while searching for evidence as a doubting kid. Didn’t find anything. I realized the absurdity later on of believing in ghosts and psychics and magic when one of the defining qualities is how they can’t be recorded or even reproduced scientifically.

    God loves you, watches you, judges you and can do anything, but he won’t move a leaf on the floor to tell a crying bullied kid to hold on to hope, that he exists. God is such a human-centric thing anyway. Humans are specks of nothingness, a million years in a tiny planet in a sea of infinite time and space. But yeah some dude created us specifically and we look like him!


    I just realized I’m on the God account. 🙏😐 (God wants people to doubt him so he can send them to hell without feeling bad about it?!?!)

  • @shrugal@lemm.ee
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    No.

    Imo the more you think about it the more you realize that “god” is just a very human way to cope with feeling lonely or powerless, and life having no ultimate direction or purpose. People imagine a friend or guardian who has a plan and will set things right, and some use this shared fantasy to make others do what they want.

  • Rouxibeau
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    222 years ago

    Apatheist here. Whether there is or isn’t a god, I don’t give a shit. Just stop trying to shove your shit down my throat and leave me the fuck alone.

    • Xhieron
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      22 years ago

      Yes, and yes to the OP. It’s very similar.

      An older family member once asked my siblings and me, as older teenagers, whether we believed in Santa. We scoffed, laughed, and incredulously said of course not.

      She responded that she believed in Santa, and she gave this explanation: Santa is a cultural shorthand for generosity. Do you believe in the spirit of giving? Do you want to see smiles on children’s faces on Christmas morning? Do you want to make the people you love light up because you had special, almost supernatural, insight into their heart’s desire and made it real?

      I don’t believe a magical man in a red suit gives presents and coal to kids. I similarly don’t believe in a white bearded cloudy Jewish giant in the sky.

      But I believe that there’s something sublime and immaterial in the love we can have for one another, something only partially explained by ecologic survival pressures and biochemistry. I think there is something out there beyond what we can perceive on a daily basis, and for lack of a better lexicon, “spiritual” is as good a term as anyone for the realm of the imperceptible.

      So I think there’s a God, and I think there’s a Santa. I don’t understand either, and I think they’re neither anything quite like we expect. And God the Creator is certainly an asshole sometimes. But I think there’s Someone out there.

      • Alien Nathan Edward
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        That’s kinda just equivocation though.

        Do you believe in Santa Claus?

        Yes, but only if you define Santa Claus as something entirely different than what you intended when you asked the question.

        • @redballooon@lemm.ee
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          Well that’s the issue always when talking about metaphysical beliefs.

          There’s the child that beliefs in literal Santa going down the chimney. And there’s the adult that stopped believing in child stories and sees a rich and valuable culture around those stories anyway.

          It’s not equivocal, but grown up in an embracing way.

          There’s also the grown up in a rejecting way who is never satisfied with either variant, although for some this is just an intermezzo towards the embracing way.

    • @coldv@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      I remember I actually stopped believing in God at the same time I realised Santa wasn’t real.

    • @AppaYipYip@lemmy.world
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      Yes, becuse in my family, all the older family members make him real for the younger kids. We actively work together to make Christmas a magical time by telling stories and staying up late to put out presents. I know that Santa is not a real person but I believe I can keep his “spirit alive” by giving heartfelt presents and spending quality time with my family.

      I personally am atheist but I will admit that many religions have good teachings. I don’t believe in the gods from those religions but I can follow the guidelines to living a good life.