• dumpsterlid@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    Ok, well I always thought it was weird Chakotay didn’t get mentioned much in newer trek. I thought it was mostly because his character was a massive fail in attempting to portray an indigenous character but maybe it is also just because the actor himself sucks?

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      3 years ago

      he’s not the only Trek (or even the only VOY) actor to run afoul of fans because said Bad Things™ on Twitter.

      In 2017, Manu Intiraymi, who played Icheb on VOY, tweeted some nasty comments in defense of Kevin Spacey who was accused of sexually assaulting DIS actor Anthony Rapp when he was 14. Not only did Trek fans collectively have an aneurysm (and rightly so), Paramount cut ties with him over the incident. Not long after, his character, Icheb, was killed especially brutally in an episode of PIC— while also portrayed by a different actor. Many interpreted that as those working on Trek telling Intiraymi exactly how they felt about his comments— while also closing the door on his ever returning.

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          it didn’t seem too ridiculous considering what he said, and they didn’t have to rewrite anything. they just had to write it. the scene was pretty over-the-top in its brutality. it didn’t take much “interpretation” to see the hostility there.

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              they had to write it, cut out time for it, and work it into the existing plot. basically rewriting

              the incident happened in 2017. the episode came out years later. there was no “existing plot” to rewrite, lmao. and the blood and gore and horror was far beyond the rest of what happened that episode or even season.

              you’re twisting yourself in knots to explain away something very obvious.

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        3 years ago

        Not sure of all the details, but the guy the production hired to give them information on customs/culture to use in the show turned out to be a total sham, for one.

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      “People in the lgbtq+ community aren’t real trek fans” is absolutely not what he said.

      he agreed with it, which is tantamount to saying it himself.

      He shouldn’t have agreed with this asshole who tweeted at him, but that is what he did wrong.

      yet, you’re here defending him? so, you think it’s ok to agree with bigotry as long as you don’t say it out loud? wow

      But this is just not good enough for the woman who quote tweeted him and just had to add her own little flair to the truth to make it sound worse.

      Beltran says agrees with a homophobic/transphobic tweet, and your problem is that someone objected? So, to you, the bigotry isn’t the problem, but the fact that anyone has a problem with bigotry and speaks out against it? Because that’s what it sounds like.

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    3 years ago

    Endorsing homophobic comments on what? Usually explaining what X stands for is a good idea.