Hello!

I’m interested in moving my personal computer to running Linux but I’m not sure where to even begin. As background, I am a casual user and have a desktop with hardware from around 2014 running Windows. I am hoping to setup a NAS drive as a media server in the next year or so, offloading all of the files currently on the Windows desktop and have been interested in open source software such as Jellyfin. I also mostly game on an Xbox and Nintendo Switch, but have used the desktop in the past for gaming such as with an Oculus Rift Headset and some Steam games so not huge on getting games working on the computer. But, I do sometimes torrent using the computer so don’t want to lose that capability (especially with upkeep for the media server).

With all of that said, I didn’t know how to get started with choosing what Linux OS to use, setting it up, backing up my files to make sure I can use them with the new OS, etc. Making the switch seems to have great options for customization and “choosing a distro that works for you”, but I don’t know what would work for me or what will be user friendly for a beginner.

Any tips or pointing me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

  • @FlappyBubble@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    I’d say don’t over think it. Just pick a distribution and try to stick with it. The vast choices is also a curse for newcomers. It definitely delayed my journey by years going back to Windows.

    Start with something well supported, I’d pick Mint.

    Get games or whatever you use the computer for the most to work OK. Nvidia don’t like Linux, pick AMD.

    Be prepared to give up some old habits instead of forcing windows software on Linux. For example I had to give up Lightroom and as a photography hobbyist it was hard at first. Now I use Darktable and the switch back to Lightroom today seems equally hard.

    So in short. Install a beginner friendly distro and get the most important stuff working and begin using the computer as much as possible.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      I forget what GPU I currently have but I may be upgrading soon anyway so I’ll be sure to keep that in mind for the purchase. That’s the first big step: finding software to fit my needs as they come up but that can be piece by piece!

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      42 years ago

      Lots of suggestions for Mint so it seems that’s a good choice for me! Thank you!

      • @FlappyBubble@lemmy.ml
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        22 years ago

        No problem. It probably won’t be the one you end up with if you stick to Linux for a couple of years but as I said don’t distro-hop. The big jump is the one to Linux. The difference between distributions isn’t that important. Good luck!

  • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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    212 years ago

    I think my biggest tip is to manage your expectations. What you are attempting is not the same as simply moving to a new version of Windows – literally everything will be different. You’ve spent a lifetime learning how to perform all these tasks until they became second-nature, but now you plan to move to a whole new system. Thing will be in different places, the way you tweak settings or access content will be different, and it’s going to be very frustrating because hey, this task should be easy. Don’t expect to cram all those years of experience into re-learning a new system in a few weeks.

    The good news is that there’s a huge support community, and just about anything you want to do has already been asked and can be found through a quick search. Stick with it, and you’ll discover that linux actually gives you quite a lot more control over what you can do with your hardware (not to mention nearly all the software is free). It won’t be long before you’re asking how you ever survived without many of these tools.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      32 years ago

      Okay thank you! Could you give some examples about tasks that “should be easy” but aren’t? I’ve worked with MacOS casually and I thought it was based on Unix (maybe?), so I was at least aware that the way to maneuver through the desktop/settings/file searches are different from Windows of course. I am certainly not a power user, just getting frustrated with companies overstepping more and more and want to cut myself from their whims, if that makes sense.

      • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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        72 years ago

        In the beginning it seemed like everything was a task – how do I install new software, how do I set up the right display or printer driver, how do I upgrade the whole OS? Then it quickly got down to making things look and act in a way that made more sense to me, or even adding and moving things around on the start menu. Back when I started, setting up dual monitors required manually building an X11 startup file and upgrading the OS usually meant compiling a new display driver, but that was around 2005 so of course things are MUCH better now.

        Eventually you’ll get down to the point of simply finding compatible software to reproduce something you did in Windows, which usually isn’t difficult. A lot of this is going to depend on exactly how you use your computer and what you expect from it. I was already using Firefox and Thunderbird when I made the switch so that covered like half the things I needed at the time. Microsoft Office is (thankfully) gone although some parts of Libre Office still feel a bit rough. There’s pretty much no remaining support for Adobe pdf files, so if your employer makes use of advanced features for filling out forms then you may run into trouble (of course standard PDFs are very well supported). You will find things along the way where some business has made a point of locking people in to their product and there’s not much you can do except point out to your employer that they’re buying licenses for something that is free and more widely supported in open source products, but mostly you’ll just find your own solutions to work around these issues.

        • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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          12 years ago

          I’ll be stuck with Windows on my work laptop, that’s not something that I will be able to change anyway. I can point out as things come up, but with industry accepted software (like SolidWorks for example) that we use daily I can’t see us switching to any alternative.

          • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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            32 years ago

            Somebody at my company got a hard-on for Microsoft products several years ago and I’d like to beat them senseless with all the problems it has caused. They started by moving all email to Microsoft “because we’ll save a ton of money not having to pay techs to manage the servers.” Within the month our mailboxes were full of spam and they’ve had to open up multiple new tech teams to deal with the constant fallout from phishing scams. And they just keep doubling down and ignoring things like the recent news of Microsoft ignoring a full remote-access vulnerability for more than a year and then mis-representing it when they did finally decide to patch it.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      22 years ago

      Yeah that’s what has made me apprehensive to be honest. I feel pretty comfortable in windows doing many things, and my wife has a MacBook that I’m also pretty comfortable using so learning a new, third OS does seem obtuse. I like the idea of having more control over the software, but don’t want to lose the “it just works” feeling of an OS or software I am used to using.

      • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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        22 years ago

        It doesn’t really take long to get the basic stuff figured out though, but there is definitely that initial feeling of being lost. As others have suggested, start out running something in a VM on your Windows desktop, then you can quickly go back and forth to practice doing things in linux as you have time (plus it’s a huge benefit to have a working browser in Windows so you can do a search if something breaks).

        Linux has a number of different desktop environments to choose from, and what’s cool is you can load up multiple types and select one at the login screen. If you want to start with something that is reasonably comfortable, try loading the ‘Mate’ desktop. Maybe I’m just used to old-school Windows (Win2K was the last one I used), but I’ve always thought Mate did a good job of putting all everything in logical places. As for the OS itself, there’s also been a lot of suggestions so I’ll throw mine in as well… I’m a die-hard Debian fan, both on my desktop and on my servers. It does NOT push bleeding-edge releases on you, so this means you won’t have the very latest updates but to me it’s more important to have a rock-solid system that I can always rely on. I’ve been using it for about 15 years now and it has never failed me.

        • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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          12 years ago

          Do others auto-update or are users prompted as updates become available?

          • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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            22 years ago

            On the desktop you will likely be notified when updates are available. On my servers I do automatic security updates, but leave the rest for manual updates so I can do one machine at a time and know right away if an update breaks something.

  • @MaxMouseOCX@lemmy.world
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    92 years ago

    Install Linux, get frustrated with it, reinstall windows and live with it - repeat for over a decade until you realise the last time you installed Linux you didn’t get frustrated and have been using it for the past two years.

  • @lungdart@lemmy.ca
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    Most people just use a browser these days, and they behave the same in every OS.

    Steam has proton to run non native games on Linux, and works well enough for most things.

    Try a few live images before making the switch.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      That’s true, most of what I do would be in a browser as a casual user. My work laptop would still be running Windows and doing what I “need” (Excel, SolidWorks, etc.) Although I want to keep the ability to torrent and manage my media files nicely, I’m open to using different softwares than I’m used to for those.

  • @MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml
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    The best way to switch imo is to first to switch some of your currently installed app on windows with others that have a linux version, so you will not be entirely lost when you switch os.

    For example Microsoft Office is not available on linux so maybe try libreoffice or onlyoffice, another example Photoshop doesn’t have a linux version too.

    Then maybe try to familiarize with the os on a vm or on a live usb, especially on a live usb so you know what works out of the box and with your hardware.

    If you want to game look for you games on protondb if they work or not, for online games instead watch areweanticheatyeat to see if the anticheat work.

    Last tip is to go with a know distro not something obscure like steamos or kali linux, they are not meant to be used as daily drivers especially kali and can give you problems that will not occurre in other distro!

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      Okay thank you! Do you know of a good list of Linux compatible alternatives to Windows software? I’m sure I can track some down but may want to get familiar before making the jump like you said.

        • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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          Typically I have a browser (Firefox), Blender for some 3D modeling, uTorrent, previously Plex (but wanting to move away from it to something like Jellyfin maybe), Microsoft Offjce products but mostly Word/Excel/PowerPoint, and I have Outlook on my work laptop but am used to using browser for email client as needed so thats not a huge priority if there isnt a good mail application. There are probably others but those are the most often or daily usage!

      • @MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml
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        22 years ago

        Dunno any, but if you maybe tell me the software you want to switch I can tell you the alternative available on both Linux and Windows if available.

  • Step 1: Make a list of the software you use, and search online to see if they work on Linux.

    Step 2: For the ones that don’t work on Linux, find alternatives and use them for a few days.

    Step 3: Download a linux distribution’s iso into a pen drive, and boot from that. See how everything feels. (Don’t install it yet.)

    Step 4: Install a linux alongside your Windows (i.e. dual-booting).

    Step 5: When you realise that you are no longer using Windows, you can think of removing it, particularly if you’re short of disk space.

    As for which distribution to use, I would suggest Linux Mint, but Pop OS and Ubuntu are also fairly beginner-friendly.

    • Mindlight
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      I second number 4.

      Since Microsoft does what Microsoft does you might run into trouble with not being able to boot Linux after the first time you bored into windows again. It’s not a biggie. Google solutions and you will be able to restore Grub easily.

      I run dual boot and I’ve been doing it for over 10 years. Best of two worlds.

        • Mindlight
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          Grub is a bootloader. Instead of starting Windows immediately when you turn on the computer there is a program called grub that is started. In grub you get a menu where you can choose what OS, Windows or Linux, you want to start.

          Now, Microsoft doesn’t like that because in their world there is only one OS so why would you even need to choose? 😉 So what Windows does sometimes is to remove Grub and make sure the computer starts directly into windows.

          If this happens you just Google and you will find how to boot up on your Linux DVD/USBstick and run some commands to get the menu (Grub) back.

          • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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            Ah okay that makes sense. I wasn’t familiar with the term, but I’ve heard of bootloaders.

            • Mindlight
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              Remember that when you Google solutions, check the date on the results you get. A posted solution on Reddit from 2018 might not be adequate for your situation.

  • @Perroboc@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    Please pick a rolling distro with KDE Plasma. I would recommend Endeavour OS.

    A rolling distro is the most similar thing to keeping a Windows installation in terms of updates if you don’t change the big version. You get constant updates, sure, but it’s also really more compatible because software is not frozen until the next OS release.

    In contrast, a standard release distro is more akin to macOS. You install the OS, but every X (6? 9? 12?) months, you must upgrade to the next big thing. This presents 2 problems IMHO: you have to wait that long for updates you might need, and the upgrade might break a lot of things.

    And KDE is a Desktop Environment. This is the look and feel of the desktop. In my experience, I tried Gnome, Cinnamon, and XFCE, thinking they might be more aligned with the FOSS philosophy. Then I tried KDE because I bought a Steam Deck, and I immediatly loved it and haven’t looked back. It’s that good.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      Okay great! What are the improvements/benefits of KDE that make you say that?

      • @Perroboc@lemmy.world
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        Customization doesn’t break as often, and you opt out of features already built in, rather than installing third party extensions that might bug out with every update.

        You feel like you can change KDE to your workflow, rather than feel the DE force you into a specific way of working.

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    If you’re not a techy person/power user, I would recommend staying with Kubuntu/Xubuntu (flavors of Ubuntu, that seem familiar to Windows users), or a more loved variant Linux Mint. You’ll have everything you need there, and your gaming will do just fine using Steam thanks to Proton. My first time (~2014) I went with Ubuntu, since it has an easy to use installer (like most distributions), with relatively sane default settings. Nowadays I would recommend Linux Mint or anything Debian based for the stability.

  • Scan through some YouTube videos of each of these recommended distros and see which one you like the look of best; They are all good recommendations.

    I’d like to throw Zorin in the pot, I use it on all my devices (and servers) since it’s just smooth and works without fuss or tinkering. There’s a Gnome version and an XFCE version, both are very nice. XFCE is a little lighter in weight of course, which you may like or need.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      What do the “versions” represent? From what I understand elsewhere, Gnome is the desktop styling correct?

      • @fluxx@lemmy.world
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        Kinda like that, but a bit more. Those are desktop environments, which differ in more than just styling. Most popular ones are gnome, KDE, xfce, but there are dozens of others. Most distributions come with one directly supported, but you can install others usually and pick at login.

        • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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          Oh that’s interesting. So each time I login I could potentially load into a different styling as I choose?

          • @fluxx@lemmy.world
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            Yes, that’s exactly it. You could try out and see what you prefer. I tried everything, but also tastes change over time. I used to use KDE cause it felt more like windows (we’re talking XP era), later I tried Gnome, Unity, xfce, fluxbox, but then I tried i3 and it is really minimal and tiling and I don’t need anything more. Not for beginners, but after some time, it might become your jam.

  • I did the same and moved to kubuntu. You can play Xbox game on the cloud really good on Linux. And you have heroic games launcher for the main non steam launchers. I game and work in Linux and couldn’t be happier honestly, ask me anything you want

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      22 years ago

      Okay that’s good to know. What made you choose kubuntu specifically?

      • @Decker108@lemmy.ml
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        Not OP, but I’ve been running Kubuntu since 2017 since it’s desktop environment looks and works very similar to Windows 7 (desktop with icons, taskbar, launcher, search, options, etc) which is what I was used to after running Windows for two decades before. It’s also stable and sees a lot of mainstream apps being ported to it.

        • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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          Do most distributions not have those things? I imagined a taskbar/search/options to be pretty standardized and having the option for desktop with icons at least.

          • @norapink@lemmy.world
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            GNOME is pretty much alone in offering no option for icons on the desktop. Distros like Ubuntu and PopOS use an extension to hring this functionality back and you can on any GNOME desktop yourself if you need to. Other DEs offer it by default.

      • Kubuntu is like an enhanced windows. You can make it with exactly in the same way, and even add loads of customisation. I have scripts that set up my work environment, or game environment in terms of screens. Ubuntu is really nice too, but I found kde Ubuntu was easier to tweak

  • Chewy
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    I started using Linux with a dual-boot and always booted back into Windows because it worked better since I set it up right and was confortable with it. Only booting Linux and taking the time to understand how to do whatever I want to do finally made me comfortable enough to wipe that partition.

    So my recommendation is don’t be discouraged if things seem hard or annoying, it will definitely get better over time.

    Chew

  • @Euphoma@lemmy.ml
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    You should dual boot windows and linux if you want to keep using the Oculus Rift because there is no chance to getting it working on linux.

    In my opinion its better to first test out some distros in virtual box and use them for the tasks that you would usually use your computer for. I’d recommend trying out Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, Debian, and Pop OS. These are solid distros that work.

    Once you find a distro that you like, you should start dual booting it. I got a second drive for that, before eventually copying all the files I needed over to the second drive and wiping the first drive to be my main after a year. (you can still access your windows files this way without losing any storage to linux) (steam games do not work when on windows partitions so you’ll still have to redownload games)

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      Oh, why would the Rift not work? Just no compatibility? I’ve used it with some Steam games which I thought I understood to work fine in Linux.

  • CuriousGoo
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    I just moved from Windows to Linux (currently, PopOS) this year around.

    You can try out beginner friendly distributions like PopOS, Linux Mint, ZorinOS which are Ubuntu-Debian based or Fedora. Like others have mentioned, applications made on Linux are expected to be cross-compatible with all distributions so your choice will mainly come down to what desktop environment you like as there are many with different feel to the user experience.

    To know what works for you try these out in a VM if possible before biting the bullet so you know what all packages are present in Linux, and what all of your usecase will need to be managed through WINE/Proton compatibility layers.

    You would want to avoid Ubuntu, and installing anything through Snap or PPA repositories if it ever comes up in your searches.

    • @WR5@lemmy.mlOP
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      32 years ago

      Thank you for the response! Those you said are getting a lot of mentions so I think Mint will be a good first choice to make the swap.

      • CuriousGoo
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        No problem mate !

        Once you’re on Mint’s page, just have a look over the other desktop environments (DE) offered. Screenshots will not tell you the entire picture, but at least you can have a look at what you don’t find appealing.

        But remember not to really worry about the DE, you can always install another one and remove the one you don’t like.