I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because “Linux can’t play games” despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.
2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can’t even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.
Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.
Builds New PC -> Can’t even start Steam
Somehow I don’t think the problem is Windows.
I’m upvoting this because it’s hilarious, but on a serious note, installing windows is so easy my granny could do it.
The only thing, and I assume that’s where you struggled, is sometimes the formatting of the hd doesn’t want to work. In that case, a quick google will help you out, but also just format it quickly with diskpart and continue the installation.
This person is either cursed or idk what they were trying to do. Installing Windows literally couldn’t be easier, you don’t even need to think about partitions, you can just let it create them itself.
I reinstall Windows every cca. 6 months to clear all the bloat i pick up, it’s really not that hard.
This is trolling or the actual issue is an PEBKAC issue.
Windows has fallen far from grace in my opinion, but it is not the incompetent smoldering trash fire you are describing. You guys are doing something wrong.
Three options.
- PEBKAC in the extreme
- Failing hardware causing serious software issues
- Creative writing exercise.
I’d say that stuff like this happens less often on windows, but it’s also worse when it does because you have fewer resources to fix problems when you do run into them
Sounds like a skill issue on your behalf.
It’s not Windows, it’s either a firmware or hardware issue. Windows installs very quickly actually, nowadays, but of course it’s full of ad tracking etc.
Remove the graphics card and any other extras. Just start with the motherboard, power supply, RAM and hard drive. Try install it. It should work. If not, it may be a motherboard issue. You may have to boot into the bios and see if the firmware can be updated, check secure boot, UEFI etc.
Reset the bios to factory and try again.
Once windows is installed. Install the graphics card driver, then shut it down, install the card, move the HDMI over to the card and boot. It should work.
OP claims to have successfully installed arch to confirm it’s not a hardware issue fwiw
Doesn’t mean it’s not a hardware issue, just means they aren’t running into it in their Arch install. But honestly this is probably just a bunch of bull.
This has big “the calculator isn’t working” energy.
No sir, the calculator is working fine. The problem is somewhere between the chair and the keyboard.
Then it must be bios. That’s where I’d be checking.
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Nice bait I guess. Windows may have bad things, but I have no idea what you’re talking about here
How the fuck does anybody have trouble running Windows these days?
Some OEM’s really fuck up Windows, leaving it in a practically unusable state almost out of the box with the amount of shitware that’s on there.
Additionally, for Windows, some hardware vendors do a poor job of ensuring working drivers get installed by default. Sometimes the wrong, but similar driver gets installed by Windows on a fresh install and it can really bork things up. The same can happen on Linux, but it’s easier to ignore a faulty driver at boot time with Grub and make sure the right one gets loaded. And truthfully I haven’t had to do that since like 2005.
OP said this was a home build. Should be dead simple with a clean install.
Should be, but in the past I’ve seen Windows update, misidentify hardware and try to install the incorrect driver for it (last time I saw it was with a graphics card too). That could certainly cause some issues.
AtlasOS is your solution
Well, no. A fresh Linux install is my solution.
I cant tell if people in this thread are trolls, ultra elite linux shills, or just people incapable of following simple instructions…
Like I get it, windows bad or w/e… But to act like it takes longer than an hour or two to install it, let alone 2 whole fucking days is just asinine.
Imagine having enough of a skill issue that it takes you 2 days to install Windows OS. The OS that idiot proofs itself by literally holding your hand on every option and walks you through itself to install.
Im not even joking, I re-install and have installed windows the past few years multiple times on personal devices for myself and my family and friends and even do it for professional devices and servers for my job. It is brain dead easy, enough that my tech illiterate grandparents managed to re-install it before I could make the drive to meet them and do it for them… I can’t take this OP or anyone else seriously if they can manage to install a linux based OS but somehow have 2 days worth of trouble with Windows OS…
OP is just wanting to shit on Windows because this is a Linux community.
100%
Lot of problems with the directions windows has gone or is going (cortana finally gone), but people need to chill if they think the OS is unusable or something.
Anecdotally I’m hoping SteamOS continues to progress how it has so there are even more reasons to not depend on Windows.
Yo I forgot about SteamOS! I need to check in on that, thanks for reminding me!
Yes. I have done so many installs of Windows 10 LTSC in the last few years and even on HDD it doesn’t take that much time.
This is a legit troll post. Despite Linux being better in some aspects, Windows totally steamrolls Linux on being easy to install.
Heck W10 LTSC has been super smooth and stable for me for the past 2 years on my work machine which I tend to use more than my Personal Laptop which runs Manjaro.
It’s about familiarity. I didn’t know how to install drivers on Windows. I searched and didn’t see anything in the settings about firmware updates. I was stumped.
My friend comes over and tells me I have to go to the manufacturer website to download drivers and it was like going back in time.
I have Linux on my laptop but I have a Windows gaming PC and I’m honestly trying to figure out how could you not get steam to start? Never had an issue with that before…
Well I just installed endeavour os, used steam proton and all my windows games worked, if not better than windows…
I think it’s finally there!
I would reccommend you to not install W11, but install W10 instead. It’s more stable with all sorts of hardware.
Also this could indicate an issue with the drive you’re going to install the OS on. Could you run some checks on the disk itself for failed sectors?
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There’s always LTSC. Can also see security updates being extended again similar to Win7
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Oh I never realised Apple OS naming moved past OSX. They don’t seem to use version numbers a lot in their marketing anyway.
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It worked fine on Arch. I finally found a flash drive and filesystem combination that the windows installer would both see and install when I put the manufacturer’s Windows 11 64 bit ahci drivers on. It was a scandisk usb 3.0 mini thumb drive and ntfs in case anyone was wondering. I have 7 other usb flash drives at my disposal, most of them I could see but not install the drivers and I tried ntfs, exfat and fat32 before giving up on each flash drive.
I wiped windows and installed Linux back in 2004 and never looked back.
Now im only forced to use windows in work, constantly asking my work mates how to do this n that on it. I sure they think im sine sort computer illiterate numpty with no clue.I thought this would be a post complaining about the usablility of windows as a desktop, not the one thing windows does right…
