• EVERYONE SHOULD DOWNLOAD SIGNAL for PHONE-NUMBER-based communication, tho. Proper RCS is not here yet (and won’t be in a long while), so let’s try to mobilize people to Signal.

    DeltaChat is cooler for non-phone based communications, IMO, and decentralization makes it way sexier and worth this tradeoff.

    • @9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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      173 months ago

      Actually RCS has encryption in the new spec now, and we could see encrypted RCS messages implemented on iOS and Android within a year.

      But even so, use Signal.

      • Yog-Sothoth
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        323 months ago

        RCS still leaks metadata like a sieve. Encryption, considering the platforms that exist today (Signal and SimpleX), should not be the minimum requirement. Plain-text messaging should not even be possible in modern secure messaging platforms. The platform should be open source and be engineered to mitigate the collection of metadata - like Signal and SimpleX.

        • @9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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          23 months ago

          Seeing as RCS with encryption based on the MLS standard hasnt been deployed yet, can you show exactly what metadata is leaking?

          • Yog-Sothoth
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            13 months ago

            MLS only deals with encryption and key management, which is great but that’s been a “solved” problem since TextSecure (now Signal) introduced the TextSecure Protocol (now the Signal Protocol) in 2013.

            What I’m aware is missing with RCS / MLS compared to Signal (someone with more recent knowledge please correct me):

            • Sealed sender so only the recipient knows who sent the message.
            • Not storing metadata or logs.
            • No built in crash reports.
            • Private contact discovery.
            • Published government requests providing evidence that they don’t have any data.
            • Open source client.
            • Looking at the Google Play store, Google’s Messenger shares precise location data with third parties, Signal doesn’t.
            • Also on the Google Play store, Google’s Messenger app list a lot of data collected. Signal only lists phone number.
      • @BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml
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        53 months ago

        I think they mean that it’ll take time for everyone to get it. My carrier still doesn’t even have RCS at all.