Is anyone actually surprised by this?

  • Snot Flickerman
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    2 months ago

    DeepSeek does the same things that OpenAI does, but it’s a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

      • @Bleys@lemmy.world
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        652 months ago

        Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data? Selling it? If you’re not a Chinese National, at least you don’t fall under their jurisdiction.

        If you’re a U.S. citizen, with all the tech oligarchs cozying up to the current administration, I’d be a lot more concerned with Facebook/Twitter/Etc collecting your data.

        • @frozenspinach@lemmy.ml
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          Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data?

          Probably mapping out the extended support networks of democratic activists in Taiwan to prepare to throw them in jail after a forcible military takeover.

          • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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            122 months ago

            So democratic activists in Taiwan have extensive networks in the US?

            I mean, you said it.

              • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                12 months ago

                Networks with a foreign actor undermining national sovereignty, which financed several massacres in your country

                • catsarebadpeople
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                  My country? Not sure what you’re talking about but I know that Taiwan deserves sovereignty. You don’t? Surely you’re not pro imperialism…

                  • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                    12 months ago

                    I meant in Taiwan but tbh throw a dart at a globe and if you don’t land in the ocean there’s an 80% chance the US has sponsored a massacre there.

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        As a US citizen, I prefer services that US consumer protections could apply to. (While we still have them, ahem.) I know that Chinese laws will not protect me from things a Chinese business does in China.

        (What’s with the rude replies? Did I fail to notice what instance I’m on or something?)

          • @mspencer712@programming.dev
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            This makes me sad, that we can’t engage in civil discussion about this. Why did you assume and not ask questions? Be curious, not judgmental.

            To me it’s a question of laws. The laws of the U.S. at least somewhat constrain the people of my own country, and can prevent them from working against their own citizens. Like me.

            Please be kind when replying.

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      2 months ago

      but it’s a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

      I love that people think this is a solid own. Lest we forget Hong Kong, or an impending hot war in Taiwan or building out extradition systems with an expanding network of countries to forcibly repatriate and torture dissidents and human rights lawyers.

      You used to not have to explain why authoritarianism was bad.

      Edit: I would love to know the Pro side of what happened in Hong Kong, or the forced extradition regime, since evidently I’m clearly in the wrong in thinking those were bad. What am I missing?

      • @Foni@lemm.ee
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        262 months ago

        It used to not be necessary because democracies used to have moral authority but since the revelations of Manning and Snowden non-Americans see no difference between giving our data to the USA or to China or any other. We also know from the reaction to the war in Ukraine and Gaza that human rights claims are only sometimes used.

      • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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        42 months ago

        or an impending hot war in Taiwan

        When you can’t even find things that China actually has done to complain about, so you have to start complaining about things they haven’t done.

      • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Anti terrorism is good, actually. I don’t support people kicking seniors for speaking mandarin to try to bully a government into not prosecuting murderers in the mainland, which was the reason the protests happened (that and Washington money)