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Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

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Spanish police requested information from Apple, and encrypted services Proton and Wire, about a pro-Catalan independence activist.

By the way, the earlier posted article https://restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain had an update starting at the paragraph with title Update: Statement from Proton and additional commentary

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  • lemmyreaderOP
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    “helped” is very misleading. Companies can’t refuse to provide information they have when served a search warrant / court order. These companies DID NOT choose to provide the info on their own.

    You are suggesting all these companies are completely helpless against legal requests. That is not correct. A company should first make clear that the legal request is actually completely legitimate and correct. After that they can look at whether they should provide the information or not.

    See the data here :

    • https://restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain
    • https://cdn-resprivacy.pressidium.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Proton-Mail-logs.png
    • SecurityPro
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      As someone who has worked fraud and online investigations, and both written and served search warrants; it is not an option. A probable cause affidavit is presented to a judge and if the judge agrees there is sufficient probable cause, a search warrant is issued. This is an order by the judge and not optional. The judge can hold the company in contempt if they refuse to obey his/her order.

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        • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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          Proton complies with Swiss law, and has to be channeled through Swiss official channels who rely the request.

          So there’s jurisdiction.

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            • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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              I would say your interpretation was a bit extreme. Nobody implied a warrant from anywhere in the world.

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    • @refalo@programming.dev
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      Are you suggesting they didn’t do those things? Good info either way.

      Also there IS another alternative, the lavabit way… just go out of business /s

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