Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

  • Grant_M
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    1002 years ago

    Russia is a terrorist country. Terrorists can’t be negotiated with. #SlavaUkraini

    • @sndmn@lemmy.ca
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      Russia can’t be accepted back into the international community until Putin is in a jail cell or in the ground.

    • @zephyreks@lemmy.ca
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      Foundations of geopolitics? Fuck that, more war. More Ukrainians will die, and that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

      • TheLurker
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        -12 years ago

        Fuck off tankie. No-one gives a shit what you think with your pathetic bootlicking whataboutism rhetoric.

    • @OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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      Slava Ukraini was literally the battle cry of the OUN, which collaborated in the holocaust. Find a different motto.

      • Grant_M
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        -112 years ago

        SLAVA UKRAINI tell your czar putler his time is up. :)

      • @jcit878@lemmy.world
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        “ahhhhhh splat” is the current warcry of the woefully unprepared orcs getting slaughtered in a war that could end today. maybe you guys could at least come up with something original before winding up as compost?

        as expected tankies and brain-dead conservatives take issue with the fact I’m mocking the vatniks out there being converted into soil. guess what? I give as much a shit about you guys as the decomposing corpses of the mobiks, and find your opinions on the topic to be as usual, laughably silly and predictable. no, I’m not gonna have any need to humanise a bunch of trash that are invading another country. do I feel genuine sympathy for the conscripts who have no choice and no possibility to surrender? sure. that’s their lot unfortunatly, but you won’t find me crying over dead Russians in Ukraine

      • Grant_M
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        -132 years ago

        I block all ruscist trolls. You’re up!

    • @gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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      “Slava Ukraini” is fascists slogan used by, and mainly associated with, the mass murderers of hundreds of thousands of Poles and Jews. I guess that doesn’t count as terrorism in your worldview.

        • @gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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          32 years ago

          I already responded to this in a reply to another user:

          So it’s perfectly normal to revive a slogan that was last used by fascists? I’m sure the fact that Ukraine also made Bandera a national hero and put up statues of him and named streets in his honor right around the same time that slogan made its comeback is just a coincidence? Totally innocent slogan my ass.

          You might be blind in your right eye if you think this isn’t some fascist shit. This is like “the swastika is an old Hindu symbol” type defense, only worse because you’re ignoring the Hitler portrait right next to it.

          • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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            I’m blind in my left eye, thank you very much… but since we’re copying other comments:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists

            It’s mainly associated with “Ukrainian Nationalists” since WWI, adoped by the fascist organization which took part in the Holocaust and massacre of Poles, whose members have been granted veteran benefits in 2019, and its emblem is being used by present Ukrainians.

            I’m not defending it, and as a Pole I’m definitely suspicious of Ukraine’s true intentions behind the slogan and the emblem… but I’m also pro-EU, and right now it’s better to support Ukraine, than to let Russia think about which EU member state to invade next.

            Afterwards, if Ukraine wants to get its shit in order to a level where it could join the EU and NATO… then go ahead. Germany did it, Italy and Spain did it, and we’re all better for that.

            • @gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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              Germany and Italy literally did not get rid fascism willingly, they were defeated and this was imposed on them. And being from Germany, I assure you denazification was incredibly half-assed.

              Look at it for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SlCLSBr9sW0

              They’re doing the salute and everything. That salute was introduced by the fascist OUN.

              • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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                FML… that is indeed the fascist salute.

                I know de-nazification was half-assed; I lived in Italy, now I live in Spain, and man, 45 years after the fascist regime was “gone”, there are still those opposing the removal of some fascist symbols. They used to argue that “it’s too soon”, now they’re arguing “it’s too late, let them be”, while there are still people killed by the dictature laying unidentified in some ditch or another.

                Guess we’ll have to live and see where it all goes.

        • @jcit878@lemmy.world
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          hows your special operation going champ?

          edit: you still waiting for your response to be sent to you? arent able to think of one yourself? pretty sad. what about the other tankies downvoting, got any thoughts of your own fellas?

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          I really think “Slava Ukraini” is a fascist slogan, because it is. Since you’re mad at me for pointing it out, I suspect it might be you who would get banned if you said what you really think.

          In April 1941 in German-occupied Kraków, the younger part of the OUN seceded and formed its own organisation, called the OUN-B after its leader Stepan Bandera. The group adopted a fascist-style salute along with calling “Glory to Ukraine!” and responding with “Glory to the Heroes!”. During the failed attempt to build a Ukrainian state on lands occupied by Germany after its invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, triumphal arches with “Glory to Ukraine!”, along with other slogans, were erected in numerous Ukrainian cities.

            • @gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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              So it’s perfectly normal to revive a slogan that was last used by fascists? I’m sure the fact that Ukraine also made Bandera a national hero and put up statues of him and named streets in his honor right around the same time that slogan made its comeback is just a coincidence? Totally innocent slogan my ass.

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                  Have a good day.

                  Look, you can’t just present an argument and then tell me not to reply.

                  The history of Ukrainian support of him is fairly new and is far more complicated than “we like fascists”,

                  I’d like to hear your arguments why worshiping the leader of an organization that took part in the Holocaust is somehow “complicated”. It’s not like this isn’t some well-known fact. Seriously, this is obviously totally fucked. Why would you feel to need to defend this? It’s not, actually, fucking complicated.

                  hostility so far

                  And whose fault is that?

      • @Badass_panda@lemmy.world
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        Ah yes, “Glory to Ukraine,” seems like a super specific slogan that can only be associated with one movement. In no way is it a generically nationalist slogan.