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@schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to Privacy@lemmy.ml • 2 months ago

UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

www.theguardian.com

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UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

www.theguardian.com

@schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to Privacy@lemmy.ml • 2 months ago
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Exclusive: Algorithms allegedly being used to study data of thousands of people, in project critics say is ‘chilling and dystopian’
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  • @Korkki@lemmy.ml
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    Will the British cabinet be automatically included on the list?

  • @JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca
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    They should make three, and they all have to agree, but if only one disagrees then maybe they can ignore it, call it the “minority account” or something like that.

    • @bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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      The “less report”. Blamo.

    • Mike
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      Sounds like a great idea for a movie. I have the feeling it would become an instant cult classic.

    • @considine@lemmy.ml
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      You’re not going to believe this, but Tom Cruise… has identified you as an agent of Xenu.

  • @HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works
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  • @Kobo@sh.itjust.works
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    What can go wrong?

    • @Chais@sh.itjust.works
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      Right? No way this could possibly backfire. Unless, of course, that’s the intended outcome.

      • @Tangentism@lemmy.ml
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        It’s typical of the neolib Labour party.

        They’ve recently reintroduced legislation for digital IDs, just as they did the previous time they were in govt (prior to 2010).

        We also have police stepping up unregulated use of facial reignition camera on the streets

        They are obsessed with authoritarianism.

  • @Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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    Data scientist here; there simply are not enough murders to model this, so they will need to use proxies for “likely” murderers (like any sort of violent crime). That means the model will very strongly target people who are over-policed (minorities) and those more likely to actually get caught and charged for things, and thus be in the training data set (poor people). It will also fail spectacularly for this purpose because even a highly accurate model will produce almost 100% false positives -again, because actual murders are so vanishingly rare. The math just doesn’t work.

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    I give it two seconds to turn into racism machine

    • @Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      And those two seconds are just the boot sequence.

  • FriendOfDeSoto
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    Will this drive the first wrongfully accused person to suicide or will it just somehow, magically, target all brown and black people? Stay tuned to see how much taxpayer money gets sunk into this tool.

  • @quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    apparently Uk govt has never played watch dogs legion, nor seen Equilibrium (C Bale movie), nor Minority Report, nor Richard III, nor read Brave New World, nor the billion other movies, novels, games, poems, songs, Banksy art, social videos, cave paintings, etc that specifically warned UK not to (re)become the villain (over and over again)

    it’s like the 2nd most popular culture topic… after “love” or something

    but noooo, just had to be edgelordsandladies.gov.uk

    …

    • @Kobo@sh.itjust.works
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      Fuck around, find out, double down

  • Karyoplasma
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    Guilty until proven innocent.

    • @nevm@lemmy.ml
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      It’s how the police view you anyway.

    • @SoulWager@lemmy.ml
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      Pretty easy to prove you didn’t commit a crime that hasn’t happened, no?

      • @FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
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        Yes just tell the pig that you did not do it and he will release you

      • LiamBox
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        No

        https://youtu.be/3Zfz5rjjifM

  • @ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
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    Let me guess: Palantir

  • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    Healthcare CEOs at the top of the list.

    • @iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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      if the model is working correctly it indeed must point us towards billionaires

  • @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    Prediction: this gets used to surveil dissidents and minorities disproportionately.

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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    Does it identify people like Kid Starver who are murdering the disabled on an industrial scale?

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