ironically half my team at work is in Norway and they use windows. My team in the US uses linux.
Are nowegians hate Finland? I don’t have any other explaination for this.
Linux on all their electric cars, and they’re watching porn while driving ;)
What’s the source for this image?
I downloaded the data from globalstats statscounter
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You can download the .csv data from the website. Then make a stacked area chart in something like Excel/Google Sheets/Libreoffice Calc.
Is that where all the government computers run Ubuntu?
I’m a Norwegian Linux enthusiast and have never heard anything about the government using Ubuntu or Linux. Seems unlikely, from what I know. I know that within healthcare Windows is still widely used, even on the server side…
On the other hand, a lot of software for official services is being developed as open source now, so that’s at least a good step in the right direction. Example: https://github.com/navikt
Norwegian government loves windows, so yea, I really doubt it. (by it, I mean the government using Ubuntu thing)
Source: I used to work for the Norwegian government
edit: added explanation to “it”, so not to be as confusing to what I refered to.
I especially appreciate that the graph is designed as “Linux” and “Other” instead of “Windows”, maybe “MacOS” and “Other”.
This reminds me of Meetup.com dying almost everywhere except Chicago where the HQ is and everyone uses it.
Nothing is happening in Norway. Source: I live in Norway.
I’ve met only a handful people that use Linux on their desktop, plus some developers that use it at work.
I run (one of three partners) a small IT company in the UK. I’ve always Linuxed since around 1998. After messing with RedHat, Mandrake, Yggdrasil and others I settled down and ran Gentoo for many years and then Arch for some more.
I’m gradually dumping the Windows servers and replacing with Linux based beasties. We are also in the throws of replacing VMware with Proxmox.
I also have a pretty decent Kbuntu based desktop/laptop effort. I’ve done Windows client deployments in the 1000s so I have quite a good idea about compliance etc. An Ubuntu based box can run several AV solutions, secure boot and full disc encryption. Buzz words perhaps but also audit points and will get you over the line for Cyber Essentials Plus (UK).
Libre Office works for me and I used to teach office suites in the 90’s! Things have moved on since but a decimal alignment stop is a decimal alignment stop today too (do you know what that means?). I run our Exchange system, and I migrated it from GroupWise back in the day because the kool kids “required” it. Anyway, Evolution with EWS will get you full functionality for a client but with far less faff.
I’m taking my time. I already have at least two employees who are dyed in the wool Windows officianados begging me to migrate them to Linux. I will but it takes time. For example - “drive mappings” or in English: Remote mounts.
CID - https://cid-doc.github.io/ . This is an easy to add Windows compat thing. Its rather good. For static desktops its fine but for laptops that move around a lot it can be hard to get the file system mounts working again quickly in a dynamic environment.
CID uses a PAM mount based system and in the past I used another one (autofs I think). However it seems to me that mounts are not dynamic or responsive enough. In the end it is Samba and that might need some fettling as well.
As I said earlier, I’m taking my time (I’m an engineer) but be assured that Linux is quite capable of driving your desktop.
European governments will do this thing where they pass some law that says they have to take bids from local vendors for systems, olafs computer service will put in a bid with some free software system, the government will take them up on it, spend a bunch of money trying to integrate it into their existing systems with varying degrees of success then parlay abandoning it for their majority provider in exchange for avoiding cost increases or some free support/equipment.
I think Germany’s done it twice now.
The EU requires government acquisitions to be publicly announced so that private companies can make offers that the government then must choose from (not freely, mind you, but following some “objective” metrics).
Even though this might sound great to some, it has the downside of promoting commercial services and vendor lock-in up to the point that even if a free and open source alternative exists, it cannot be used unless there also exists some commercial entity behind it that can sell the software and support for it in accordance with the established metrics.
This might be one of the biggest hurdles in the way for Linux adoption, since anyone can claim to do lots of great stuff with SUPERproprietarySOFTWARETM and then hold critical services, like healthcare mentioned elsewhere, hostage to their failure to deliver on promises and future bad support.
I in general very much support requiring paying for support. I.e. SLAs with consequences for not meeting targets support.
At least for software/hardware running things that can’t afford indefinite unauthorized access or downtime if left in a vulnerable state. (Some stuff actually can IMHO be like that).
I also think governments should have justify renting software insteading buying it if the money is intended to be an investment of any kind.
Even more important, a huge multinational like Microsoft can be forced in court to provide the support they sell under threat of legal action that would cripple their profitability in the region. Olafs computer service will just turn its pockets inside out, flip around the shingle to closed and leave the national drivers license agency in a lurch.
On some level the companies that sell and support systems government relies on have to be treated as nation states themselves in order to maintain normalcy, which both parties “want”.
Serious question for you all. I too wish to see Linux use increase. I also want to see corporate social media die. I am thinking of requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts for a Lemmy group i create.
Do you think this might move folks away from essy corporate os and social media? How do You see it giving wrong?
requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts
No. Nobody likes registering accounts for random services because an authority figure told them they had to, I feel like if it were me I would do the bare minimum of interacting that I was required to and never look at the service again out of resentment.
I like the idea, but a lot of people resent being made to create accounts on random services. We know that Lemmy is good because we’re here, but it might put them off the idea.
Depending on the age of your students, you might have to be careful about the fact that NSFW content is freely available here, and check the terms of your instance to see if they’re allowed to make accounts in the first place e.g. on most social media and forums you have to be 13 or over.
These are college students. I’ll try to make the assignment relevant and fun.
Awesome, good luck 🙂
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I would rather say that help questions can be posted there. That way its not forving anyone to do anything
1 out of the 3 total norwegian changed the OS after creating a lemmy account.
We’re quite stupid and easy to influence.
Proof in point: I’ve gone from 0 to 3 Linux machines since joining Lemmy.
Someone send help, please??
Buy Raspberry Pis in bulk and make pointless SBC projects. It’s the only thing that will fulfill you.
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I can send you an ISO file with more Tux.
Hah, never thought of it like that. I went from 0 to 2 linux desktop machines shortly after joining lemmy.
Same here. Maybe that explains it, all linux users just run multiple systems. I dont know many people who use linux certainly not every third person I meet.
Source: æøå
I really want to and at the same time don’t want to know where your name comes from…
I’m thinking koffert straight away
No luggage no worries
They just started counting all my computers and virtual machines on which I run Arch and Nixos btw!
Northern European pride!
Being that Linus is from Finland & all.
yet finland has way less linux users per capita
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland#monthly-202307-202407
Norwegian here. I quit reddit and joined Lemmy after the API debacle. Installed mint because of W11. (A big factor was how Steam and proton enables me to play games)
Can’t say either Lemmy or Linux has gotten any media attention in the big news sources as far as I can see.
I am the only one in my circle of friends that quit Reddit (most follow the various 40k reddits, and they have no replacement in federated options)
Also Norwegian. I installed Debian linux inspired by my brother who uses a version of Gentoo before systemd, and trying to hack an annoying neighbour’s bluetooth speaker. I quickly became invested in Linux. However, as far as I know, I might be the only one among my friends to make the switch. I joined Lemmy after discovering Voyager on F-Droid on my rooted, degoogled android phone
Did he ever hack the speaker?
There are two difficult problems in computer science. Naming things, and pairing with Bluetooth speakers.
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This is reported as a percentage and that’s what is tripping people up here.
You are not seeing a drastic rise in Linux usage you are seeing a large decrease in the use of desktop computers.
Linux is increasing because the only ones left using desktops are Linux users.
Nice explanation but here is a graph with desktop percentage included (versus mobile plus tablet, but that isn’t shown)
