• @SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
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    “Some faults happened” We mistakenly penetrated that woman and cut het breasts off and played with. Shits happen man.

  • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Biggest mistake is the optics. I mean, when has fighting back against your oppressor ever gotten reported on positively in the news?

    This reminds me of a useful tip: If you ever feel the need to apologize to someone you know was in the wrong; they were abusing you. The language they used in this is a textbook example of how someone acts when they feel like they need to apologize to their abuser.

  • katy ✨
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    i don’t know why everyone is surprised; hamas and the idf have been two peas of the same pod for a while now.

    • TherouxSonfeir
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      Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

      This part isn’t going to sell many people on Hamas. There’s a lot of justification of violence in their text. (Although that could be said about a great number of religious texts).

      However, their demands (page 15) don’t seem too difficult to meet…. As long as they know they aren’t getting any additional land—Israel will never go for that.

      • @jaeme@lemmy.ml
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        Then Israel must be destroyed completely. This is not a hyperbole, Israel does not deserve to exist. Israel is a paper tiger of US imperialism, it will die when the US is unable to prop up its corpse any longer.

        This part isn’t going to sell many people on Hamas. There’s a lot of justification of violence in their text. (Although that could be said about a great number of religious texts).

        Islamophobia rears its head once again. What’s the other side? A racist, ethno-supremacist apartheid state of barely indistinguishable neo-nazis that’s hellbent on being a US lapdog against the Arab world (and the Global South).

        • TherouxSonfeir
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          21 year ago

          Justifying Israeli genocide? Most of those people were just born there. Doing their thing. What do you propose happens to them?

          • @jaeme@lemmy.ml
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            Willfully misinterpreting my words, Israel as a nation state is separate from Israelis.

            Most of those people were just born there. Doing their thing. What do you propose happens to them?

            Live in Palestine as equals or leave the country never to return. Many “Israelis” are settlers who saw the nation as a ripe spot to cozy up while displacing the indigenous Palestinians, they will be the first to flee back to their imperial core. The ones who were born into this mess will be citizens of Palestine rebuilding the country on top of the corpse of Zionists who tried to take it from them and their Palestinian brothers in arms.

            There are Israelis resisting the occupation, unfortunately they are the exception not the rule as nearly all facets of Israeli life is consumed by hatred for Arabs since birth until death.

            • TherouxSonfeir
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              It’s hardly willful, you did say they should be destroyed completely. That’s pretty open for interpretation.

              So, let’s say the current government of Israel steps down, and they hold a fair election between everyone to start a new democracy. Borders are gone, no more fighting. The new government rebuilds Gaza. All the citizens of Israel keep their lives under the new system. And religious discrimination and all acts of violence, no matter how you think god feels, becomes a crime — does that work? Did I miss anything?

              Oh, and feel free to kill the former government. Don’t tell them until after haha.

              • @jaeme@lemmy.ml
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                current government of Israel

                Israeli apartheid stretches far beyond “the current government”, what you advocate for is a total destruction of the Jewish state.

                You also ignore Right of Return for Palestinians as well as other reparations in the West Bank.

                You do not understand Israel and it shows.

                • TherouxSonfeir
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                  21 year ago

                  I said borders are gone. Is that not the right to return? It was to me.

                  As far as reparations, the new government would handle that.

                  It all seems pretty cut and dry to me.

  • @GenEcon@lemm.ee
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    The demands seem to be reasonable, but this cought my eye: ‘We stress that the Palestinian people have the capacity to decide their future and to arrange their internal affairs, and thus no party in the world has the right to impose any form of guardianship on the Palestinian people or decide on their behalf’

    If Hamas is advocating for that, why haven’t they held a single election since 2006 and have erected a de facto military dictatorship and destroyed any opposition by force?

    • katy ✨
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      If Hamas is advocating for that, why haven’t they held a single election since 2006

      they only had an election in 2006 because the us and the west pushed the palestinian authority to do it, despite the pa warning the US about the possibility of hamas being brought to power.

  • تحريرها كلها ممكن
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    It popped Israel’s iron wall illusion, and made all the collaborator Arab governments look stupid. Israel can’t defend itself how will it ever defend them against their own people?

    The savagery and brutality by Israel is because they want to rebuild their iron wall image that was revealed to be an illusion. They want us to be afraid of it but all I can see is how much it needed western aid to survive. I and many like me are more convinced than ever that Israel can and will be defeated.

    I might have been in the minority of Arabs who had the phantasy of coexistence with Zionist settlers. After they revealed that their hatred and racism is the default and not some fringe position, I realize that an open war is the only way and option. Either us or us, no place for them.