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I really should feel sorrier than I do for laughing out loud at this
I’ll join you to hell where we’re definitely gonna end up after this
Oh my god that’s horrible and kind of funny even though it’s super fucked up.
“True enough, there are such things as laughless jokes, what Freud called gallows humor. There are real-life situations so hopeless that no relief is imaginable.
While we were being bombed in Dresden sitting in a cellar with our arms over our heads in case the ceiling fell, one soldier said as though he were a duchess in a mansion on a cold and rainy night, ‘I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight.’ Nobody laughed, but we were still all glad he said it. At least we were still alive! He proved it.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country
Yeah making jokes about suicide like that isn’t acceptable.
It went from 0.2/100k to 0.8/100k. In aggregate, that’s 800 people? I wonder how much of that is due to improved reporting given the lapse of the one-child policy, though.
Suicides averaged over all age groups declined by 5% in the same period, so it can’t just be better reporting. Also that’s an aggregate increase of about 6000, not 800.
Better reporting of children in particular because of the lapse of the one-child policy? For a decent amount of time China had “ghost children” that weren’t reported to the government (though you’ll find no reports on this from Western media, it’s a pretty well-established truth in some Chinese circles).
Ah, that’s possible.
The researchers at the Center for Disease Control & Prevention also warned that the widespread belief among parents and teachers that getting good scores trumps anything else risks obscuring mental health issues plaguing children.
Shitty parenting 101. I have been there and I broke down at minor setbacks. I lost my mind because of the smallest failures.
If you do this to your child, in your delusion you are doing the right thing, fuck you.
Haven’t studies shown a pretty strong correlation between scores and future income in China?
FWIW, it’s not like that culture is new. The increase in suicide rates has other drivers. I think it’s far more likely to be driven by social media and social isolation than by academic pressure (which has existed to a similar degree for the past few decades).
Let’s not forget the pandemic that they took seriously, saving millions of lives, caused a lot of trauma to a whole generation and kids are vulnerable to that sort of thing.
Absolutely. Harsh lockdown policies reduce real social interactions and meaningfully affect mental health. In America, this is reflected in the absolutely dogshit quality of drivers today.
The hit in the 11-14 demographic is rather concerning. It’s before the big wave of gaokao prep really hits (and thus precedes the job search stress), so it’s a really concerning demographic without a clear root cause.
I think you hit the nail right on the head, the unrelenting academic stress
But that’s not really hitting the 11-14 demographic that hard.
Kids talk. Stressed kids push their stress to whomever. It is tragic, but doesn’t seem shocking that the impact would be earlier. (I have zero insight into China.)
Yeah, but that’s the entire reason China splits off high school into age 15-18.
The USA is seeing similar problems https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/index.html
Suicide is the second leading cause of deaths in US children age 10 - 14
The CCP has a LOT to answer for.
Please edit your comment to not include a racist dogwhistle
(It is CPC not CCP)
How is this racist?
You’re emphasizing the Chinese part by calling them the Chinese communist party as opposed to their actual name, which is the Communist party of China. Veiled “Oh scary foreigners”
This isn’t a right wing space where you will only be banned for overt racism.
I’m not OP but thanks for the explanation.
Such as?
The suicide rate for people aged 10 to 24 increased by 56% between 2007 to 2017, according to new data from the CDC.
https://www.insider.com/cdc-teenage-gen-z-american-suicide-epidemic
and before you “b-but that’s whataboutism” me, is it not the real whataboutism to be worrying about the “disturbing” jump in youth suicide in China when America’s jump over a similar timespan is just past five times larger?
It’s 10% per year since 2010, meaning over a 100% increase at a flat rate, and over a 240% increase if compounding the rate each year. Both far more concerning than 56%, especially given the younger age range.
I’m not sure whether people like him genuinely can’t read, or whether they deliberately spread fake news.
Significant suicide rates can be worrying in multiple places. I don’t see where anyone is making this a US vs China thing
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Please edit your comment to not include a racist dogwhistle
(It is CPC not CCP)
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That’s me, not the admins. Stop being racist when you (inaccurately) criticize China and your comments won’t be deleted. If you can’t help but be racist when you criticize China then you’ll keep getting them deleted.
Is it really that hard not to be using the language of racists? Like is this really a hill you need to be dying on?
Do you see a problem between screaming “10% increase China suicide” versus staying quiet about “500% increase USA suicide”? If you cannot, take a scissors and snip your internet cables.
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I am not a CIA shill so I also call out China haters and USA bootlickers. I am concerned 50x more about USA suicide rates than that of China, you see. I am concerned about reality, where the bigger concern needs more attention. But some people focus on 0.01% problem because they are deluded or malicious.
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I did what? You… know how to check who is a moderator, right? LOL
The problem is there are always comments like these: https://lemm.ee/comment/4359032
Adding context is obviously necessary.
Okay but chill out a bit, dude.
It’s just a news article and it is worrying, even if the US is worse.
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Eh it’s still a problem for China though
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Just because the USA sucks majorly ass doesnt mean other places doesnt suck too… but it might be a waste of time arguing with you since youre from lemmygrad.
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It is interesting how USA loves to act like world police, when its own house is a maggot infested shithole. And then, people like you pop up to defend the one sided silent treatment of US media good China media bad.
Ever wondered why USA’s 5x suicide rates are not talked about by USA, since they do choose to talk about China?
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Who the fuck cares about the US.
Over here in Germany we had an almost three time jump during and directly after lockdown, but it’s still overall a downwards trend. Maybe next time don’t compare your favourite pet country with other countries which are messing up? And don’t use the suffering of kids for cheap political quips?
You are correct, and the post article doesn’t even include real numbers just percentages with no data backing it up.
Suicide rates increasing anywhere is really bad news. I don’t think people’s assessment of why it’s increasing (academic pressure) is accurate, but the fact that it is increasing is extremely concerning everywhere.
and when china needs its youth the most
